This is page numbers 49 - 68 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

Supplementary To Question 30-15(4): Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program
Question 30-15(4): Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, as we all know, the program is based on the amount of money that we do have in the pot and the number of applications you have received. On that basis, it depends on the amount of applications. Yes, we have turned people down time and again. That's why people continue to go back year after year to reapply on these programs, because there is only so much money in the pot. If the Member would like to ensure that they increase the budget next year for this program so we can assist more people, I think that is the way we can solve this problem. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 30-15(4): Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, as the lead Minister of emergency services, what is the government doing to get the people in Fort Good Hope back into their homes and back to their lives prior to the flood as soon as possible? What is the Minister doing? Thank you.

Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I guess I should first of all commend the community of Fort Good Hope for all of their efforts and their ability to work together during this real tense time this spring, when we were experiencing some severe flooding in that community. I would also like to commend the MLA for that riding for all of his good work in keeping the communications line open during that difficult time.

Madam Speaker, we are, as the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, working with a number of other departments within this government to ensure that there is a smooth effort or action plan undertaken to allow people to return to a normal routine in their lives. We have had our emergency management coordinator in the community for several days over this past week to do an assessment of where and how things can be dealt with. We have assessed that the damage is well over $1 million in the community. That does not include some of the damage that has happened to some of the houses for the NWT Housing Corporation.

We have had, along with our coordinator, an insurance adjuster in the community doing an assessment, and we have also contracted a disaster services agency from Yellowknife to help us put together an action plan and start doing some of the recovery. We have already seen the Fort Good Hope Band Council do a lot of the work that is required in terms of cleanup. They have cleaned up some of the contaminated public areas and worked on some of the flooded-out roads. We are doing everything in our power to ensure that this is done quickly. We have done a lot of work to put together an action plan; we have a lot of people in the communities from the government. I did a quick count and we have at least 25 people from the different departments in this government do their assessments and go into the community and look at their responsibilities. We are trying to package all that up and have the people back in their houses and have the seniors' home up and running.

The Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation informs me that the renovations to the seniors' home is 95 percent complete, so that is something that we could look at opening fairly quickly, depending if it passes the inspections that are required. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Minister. That is good news for the people back in Fort Good Hope. I also wanted to say congratulations to the Ministers and the departments for how they coordinated this situation in Fort Good Hope. As part of the coordination, I want to ask the Minister of MACA, would he commit to looking at the emergency measures policy in terms of if there is a similar type of situation in the NWT? They had some hiccups of the local emergency measures and the post-flood situation, and the department needs to look at the emergency measures guidelines and policies and a tightening up of the coordination by the departments. Would the Minister commit to reviewing the emergency measures with the community of Fort Good Hope on similar situations that may happen in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will certainly commit to doing that. We do review our emergency measures policy on a regular basis. Each community has emergency measures plans, however, there is a time for updating the plans and for reviewing the plans with the community, especially in the areas where there are changes in council. We will commit to reviewing the emergency measures policy and the plans and meet with the communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, part of the flood damages are people who have cabins, who have houses, equipment and supplies on the land. Would the Minister commit to the people of Fort Good Hope and to the House here that he will have some discussions with ITI and the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources regarding compensation for the loss of the cabins and skidoos of the trappers? I understand the policy on natural disasters per occurrence is about a $4,500 maximum for compensation. Would they have some discussion as to how they could properly compensate the cabin owners who have lost some of their personal belongings and property? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I cannot speak for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, however, my information tells me that there has been some analysis done in that area. I believe there was a helicopter survey done and there has been some assessment already conducted in the area of damages to the cabins. I believe

there is a trapper's compensation program that can be accessed through this program. I will take that request to the appropriate Ministers and have them respond accordingly. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Further Return To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the meetings with the Fort Good Hope people and the people who were affected by the flood shed a new light on the effects of the disaster by the Mackenzie River. The people really want to see the highest level of government in the community of Fort Good Hope. I ask the Minister of MACA how soon could he and possibly some other Ministers arrange a trip into Fort Good Hope to talk to the people, so that they have some degree of comfort by the Ministers that this government does have a heart and they do care? They will be happy to see the Ministers in Fort Good Hope. Mahsi, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I don't know how many times I have to stand up in this House and assure the Member that I do have a heart and I do care.

Madam Speaker, the sense of urgency for the Fort Good Hope flood has probably passed. There is some consideration from the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation to see if he can go into the community this weekend, providing that his travel schedule allows it. The Member of Parliament, Ethel Blondin-Andrew, has contacted me and is in the community today; she left this morning. Our session schedule doesn't allow me to get into the community. We did try to go to Fort Good Hope. We had scheduled a trip last Saturday with many of our staff and all the people involved around the issue of the flood. We waited at the airport for some period of time to fly out of here, however, the weather was not cooperating and we could not get in. We checked again in the afternoon and the planes still were not allowed to fly into that area, so we had to cancel out. We really apologize for that.

We are in contact with the chief of the community; we are talking with the band council and the SAO. There are a number of issues that are coming forward that are not really directly related to the flood, so we want to try to compile an agenda and set up a schedule to get into the community. We really want to have a sit-down, face-to-face meeting to talk about some of the issues that are coming forward as a result of this flood to see if there are any problems with the whole process. Of course, I had made earlier commitments to go into Colville Lake, so we are trying to see if we can fit that in also. This will probably be my sixth or seventh trip into the Sahtu, so I am getting to know the area fairly well. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
Question 31-15(4): Assistance To Fort Good Hope Flood Victims
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 32-15(4): Impact Of New Diavik Travel Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My questions this morning are for the Honourable Brendan Bell in his capacity as Minister of Investment, Tourism and Industry. It might be the other way around, but I hope that's clear enough. Madam Speaker, I want to follow up on the statement I made earlier on the diamond mining industry and its impact or potential lack of impact on our long-term sustainable economy here. Madam Speaker, we have long complained about resource industries being fly-in/fly-out industries. Here, unfortunately, we have another manifestation of this with Diavik's decision and it's quite allowable, I would underline, through the socioeconomic agreement, within the first four years of the agreement, to fly workers in from outside of the NWT at no cost. Madam Speaker, how are we to grow our economy if we allow ourselves to continue to be treated as any other remote outpost that multinationals can fly-in/fly-out either workers or product? How can we continue to grow if this is the way we continue to regard ourselves? Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It's a difficult issue for us to address, but we know what we need to do is get more northerners trained, especially for the jobs that require a high level of expertise. The fact of the matter at that specific mine is 70 percent of their workforce -- I think it's 72 percent, in fact -- are northerners. The other 30 percent currently come from the South. Had we had that expertise locally available in the North, there would be no one coming in from the South. That is our goal. That's why we have programs set up like the ASEP program that the Minister of Education has been working diligently on with industry and with communities. I think that's the future, Madam Speaker. The future is to get our people trained to take advantage of the opportunities that are there for them. I don't believe the mine has any interest in flying people in from the South unless they absolutely need to. It's more expensive. As I said earlier and yesterday to the questions, people who live and work in the North are much more likely to stay at those jobs. The cost of turnover is huge for mines. When you have people trained and prepared to stay, the longer they stay, the less you have to train replacements. So they have a vested interest in using northerners and I am sure if they could use 100 percent northerners, they would. It's up to us as government and northerners to get our people trained to take advantage of those opportunities. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 32-15(4): Impact Of New Diavik Travel Policy
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Those are all very good and very valid explanations, part of the foundation of our understanding. Certainly the mines collectively deserve congratulations and compliments for the investment they have made in doing that. It is truly a

partnership. It continues to be a source of concern that we are seeing this trend, unfortunately, come into a reality. Madam Speaker, the cost of living and separation from friends and relatives is one of the main reasons that southern workers say they cannot move to the Northwest Territories. Now we can't do much about the distance and the separation from friends and relatives, but we can about the cost of living. What is the GNWT doing to help address the high and already getting higher cost of living here in Yellowknife? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 32-15(4): Impact Of New Diavik Travel Policy
Question 32-15(4): Impact Of New Diavik Travel Policy
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Bell.