This is page numbers 49 - 68 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

Diavik Travel Policy Impact On Sustainable Benefits
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. So to conclude, I want to make a point that there is consideration, there is a situation happening here that is going very much against some of the hopes and the dreams and the expectations that we have about developing this industry, and seeing it grow our communities and our economy. I hope that we can look at this very vigorously in the near future to assist those companies in satisfying their demands, but also for them to look at ways in which they will continue to be the corporate citizens that I think we had all expected they will be, and indeed I think they can be. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

Diavik Travel Policy Impact On Sustainable Benefits
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Access To Dialysis Treatment In Nahendeh
Item 3: Members' Statements

May 26th, 2005

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Madam Speaker, today I would like to speak about a basic level of service that is needed by the elders in my riding; specifically, the ability of Nahendeh elders to receive dialysis treatment in Fort Simpson, the ability to have this treatment in our own region and community. Madam Speaker, most of us are familiar with the gruelling task of travel to another community often not knowing anyone, being alone, and the cultural differences.

This is exactly what many elders in my communities are faced with weekly while traveling to Yellowknife for dialysis needs while not feeling well.

Traveling is emotionally, mentally and physically demanding for anyone, especially if it is weekly and one is sick. Recently I went to visit an elder constituent that is captive in Yellowknife because of his disease. He told me I am here, I am away from all of my relatives who care for me, who can visit me, and he asked me, Madam Speaker, why can't they bring a machine home for me. Today I would like this government to answer that.

The GNWT invested in a dialysis machine when Fort Smith had five patients needing treatment. The Nahendeh region has three and possibly four people in need of this treatment, Madam Speaker. Also, with the large elderly population in Nahendeh, I know that this will require the GNWT to eventually invest in a dialysis machine. Better sooner than later I say when it comes to dialysis machines for the regions.

Another one of my constituents does most of his treatment at home and will soon require the travel to Yellowknife regularly. Unfortunately, his condition is slowly deteriorating and he would be more comfortable in a facility during his treatment. If it's in Fort Simpson he would be close to friends and family, and the communities are the best places for treatment such as this, Madam Speaker. The GNWT Health and Social Services cannot continue to calculate these essential services by numbers alone. The regional differences and costs associated and the quality of life of our very important elders must be paramount and supersede any departmental calculation. Mahsi cho.

---Applause

Access To Dialysis Treatment In Nahendeh
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Flood In Fort Good Hope
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My statement today is on the Fort Good Hope flood. Madam Speaker, today I want to talk about the recent flood in Fort Good Hope. I want everyone in Fort Good Hope to know that I'm thinking about them today. I'm very proud to say that the community really pulled together to help each other through this very difficult time. I also want to thank the government's response to the needs of the community when they requested help. Finally, I want to thank the local emergency measures team in Fort Good Hope for all the work they did, especially to Joe Grandjambe, Fred Rabesca and Henry Tobac, and to the many volunteers who just did the right thing by helping out 24/7.

Madam Speaker, the ice is gone, the floods are receding, but there is still a huge mess to be cleaned up in Fort Good Hope. I don't want anyone to think we're forgetting them. Over 25 people and families have been affected by this flood. A lot of families and elders are still homeless and are having to live at other homes. This is a terrible situation, Madam Speaker. Some estimates say that they may not be able to get back into their homes for another three months or longer. I see similar situations on TV such as floods. However, coming face to face with the effects on families and communities is quite a different story.

So my hat is off to the people, especially the elders who were affected directly. I want to encourage the Ministers of the Department of Public Works, Housing Corporation, Health and Social Services, ITI, ENR and MACA to come up to Fort Good Hope to see for themselves the damage that was left there by the floods, so the families can feel confident that the government's highest level of legislators have their attention and their homes will be getting the attention they deserve to get it done.

Madam Speaker, the community has also suffered losses to their cabins and equipment out on the land, and they need some government help. Madam Speaker, the flood is gone, the people are left high and dry, the community is rebuilding and they will rebuild. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

Flood In Fort Good Hope
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Pokiak.

Concerns In Sachs Harbour
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I rise today to speak about a number of issues affecting the residents of Sachs Harbour. Over the past year, renovations have been ongoing at the health centre. The hamlet was told on several occasions that inspections would take place at every stage of construction. Madam Speaker, on Monday, May 23, 2005, the mayor of Sachs was informed that a single inspection -- that is a single inspection, Madam Speaker -- would take place in the previous week. To date there has been no such inspection. So to add to the frustrations with the delay of the completion of the renovations of the health centre, the residents now have to worry about what the one inspection lists and what problems they will encounter in the future.

Madam Speaker, just because an asset like a health centre is in a small community doesn't mean that it should not be subject to the same level of inspections and scrutiny that would be associated with the construction or renovations of an asset in a larger community.

Madam Speaker, over the winter, an Inuvik contractor overhauled the water pumping station. Since that time there have been problems with the intake pipes freezing up. A hamlet employee must chop the ice from the intake every morning before they start deliveries. This has lead to delays in delivering water, which we all know is essential to the health and welfare of residents. The Department of Public Works and Services must address this problem this summer.

Finally, Madam Speaker, I would like to talk about the need for permanent RCMP officers in Sachs Harbour. I have raised this issue in previous sessions and will continue to do so until the residents of Sachs Harbour have access to the same level of policing services that all communities have come to expect. I do not want anyone to die because a charter from Inuvik cannot get RCMP officers to Sachs Harbour fast enough to deal with a dangerous situation. Sachs Harbour is too far away to be served by another detachment. The Department of Justice needs to find funding to reopen the Sachs Harbour RCMP detachment. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

Concerns In Sachs Harbour
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program Inequities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I rise again today on the foot of yesterday's Member's statement. I still have serious concerns with the EDAP program. Madam Speaker, I want to firmly ensure that people of the Northwest Territories know that I am absolutely proud that this government is putting people in the North into home ownership, and I think that's the number one issue that needs to come forward here so people know that it's important for me.

However, Madam Speaker, I don't think it's fair that we continue to give one family $72,000 to ensure that that one family gets into a housing situation where, as I said yesterday, we could have helped three families with approximately $24,000. That would have been a fair and reasonable down payment, but no, Madam Speaker, we have to offer payments of over $50,000, $60,000 to one family. But it doesn't stop there. We gave one family $109,000 for construction costs. In my mind, that could have helped five families very reasonably in our Yellowknife area. I think that's totally out of touch with what's considered fair and reasonable, and I need this Minister to provide details and maybe start looking into caps of what is considered reasonable assistance. That's outrageous. I think in the phrase EDAP we should get rid of the D and A and call it expanded payment program. It's not a downpayment; it's almost buying that person a house.

Madam Speaker, that is not fair to the families that didn't get their applications approved and that's why I'm here today, is because there were families that didn't get approved. The pot dried up because we only decided to help 14 families last budget year instead of who knows how many more we could have put into home ownership.

Madam Speaker, it's about helping the families, not one family. But the families we turned away we have to remember are still trapped in those low income support housing and we could do more. This government needs to look at what's considered a reasonable cap and reasonable assistance. As I said yesterday, anything over $50,000 is just out of touch and, as far as I'm concerned, giving one family $109,000 for construction costs is completely unreasonable. So I'm just going to say again today that just ain't right. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program Inequities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Ms. Lee.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yesterday we had the pleasure of having students from Hay River, and today we have a class from Yellowknife who has been patiently waiting to be recognized. Madam Speaker, it's always good to have them here and it's my pleasure. I would like to do this in French, but if I did nobody would understand it. I know they speak better English than I speak French. So it is my great pleasure to recognize the grade 3 and 4 class, Madam Isabelle Cormier's class, from Ecole Allain St-Cyr. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Welcome to the visitors' gallery. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mr. Yakeleya.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Today I would like to recognize Mr. Douglas Dillon, Mr. William Greenland, Ms. Bren Kolson from the aboriginal radio station in the north here. Also at this time, Madam Speaker, I would like to recognize two of the Pages from Deline that helped out the last couple of days; Cyre Yukon who is a Grade 11 student from Deline and Kyle Bayha who is a Grade 10 student from Ehtseo Ayha School in Deline. Thank you.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya, and thank you to all the Pages who have helped us out in the chamber this week. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mr. Pokiak.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would just like to welcome William Greenland, a friend of mine from Inuvik. Thank you.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Picking up on my Member's statement from earlier today, I'd like to say that the Minister and the government are saying all the right things about apprenticeship and the need to develop a skilled workforce here in the Northwest Territories. Madam Speaker, the reality is that's not the case for all the apprentices, and where there is smoke there is fire. I know the Minister received an e-mail yesterday outlining some difficulties a constituent of one of my colleagues was having, and the scenario that I outlined for him earlier today is not one that I haven't heard before and I have heard some serious concerns about the apprenticeship office and the difficulty apprentices are having accessing the needs and the services that they require. I'd like to ask the Minister of ECE if it's not the role of the apprenticeship office to help northerners enter the trades. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Return To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Absolutely, yes. It is the role of the apprenticeship office. It's the role of all of the staff that work in Education,

Culture and Employment to make sure that people have the best opportunity to advance.

Return To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Yes, thanks, Madam Speaker. Does the Minister know why it would take my constituent five months to get a seat at the entrance exam, and why would the office not keep a waiting list for people wanting to take that exam? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I'm disturbed to hear that that wasn't looked after in the office and that there wasn't a waiting list kept. I will follow up on that issue. I know that over this past winter we added a second officer to the staff at the North Slave office. I'm hoping that this incident occurred before that person was added, and that we have dealt with issues like that now. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Further Return To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Question 27-15(4): Apprenticeship And Training Program Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd also like to ask the Minister why this office wouldn't better coordinate the trades training with a partner school down south so that if classes are full here or they are cancelled for no apparent reason that students can be routed down south so that they can continue their education. Thank you, Madam Speaker.