Thank you, Minister Bell. Mr. Pokiak.

Thank you. I'd just like to ask the Minister, how are you going to monitor that? Inuvialuit might want to do a tourism operation, commercial operation on 7(1)(a) and 7(1)(b) land. How would the Minister ensure that in order to monitor correctly, how will that be done? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Minister Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just in terms of granting the licence, how will we ensure the consultation is taking place, is that the question?

Thank you, Minister Bell. Just to clarify your question, Mr. Pokiak.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It has sort of something to do with that, but again having worked at the Inuvialuit Land Administration before I know that some people sort of get approved and I don't know how much follow-up is in regard to licence issued to the individuals and then what the department is doing after. So I'd just like to know what kind of monitoring system is there to ensure that the Inuvialuit that are going on 7(1)(a), 7(1)(b) will apply to this legislation. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Minister Bell.

Thank you, Minister Bell. Anything further, Mr. Pokiak?

Yes, thank you. Just one quick last one here. Will the Minister sit down with the land administration, or his regional office in Inuvik ...(inaudible)...and Tuktoyaktuk to go through these new regulations? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Minister Bell.

Absolutely, Mr. Chairman. We will meet with them and have extensive consultation in order to develop the regs before we come back to the committee. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Bell. Next on the list I have Mr. Villeneuve.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. A quick question in relation to what other Members are asking. Specifically in areas when negotiations are still in the works, like the Dehcho and Akaitcho, when the tourism licence that is going to be issued is reviewed and consultation has taken place, how much weight does the aboriginal organizations offer, I guess, with their decision on whether to renew or issue a tourism licence that's given by the government when they make the final decision on whether to issue or renew?

Mahsi, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Bell.

Mr. Chairman, I understand within the interim agreements that we set out with these regions, Dehcho and Akaitcho regions specifically, there are provisions that speak to exactly how tourism operator licences are granted and so we would follow the agreements. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Minister Bell. Mr. Villeneuve.

I think in these interim measures agreements that we have, I think the Minister or the government still has the final say on whether to issue a licence or not, whether an aboriginal organization or community organization, NGO, for example, has some issues surrounding the issuance of a licence to a particular operator or an operator that is maybe not from the territory. How much consideration is given to the final outcome of any issuance or renewal to an organization that has those concerns? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding, and in the past I think it's been conducted in this manner and we propose that it be conducted this way going forward, obviously we meet with the authorities, sit down and go through the proposed licence. We would expect that they would not just issue a veto without raising any concerns. If they have concerns related to wildlife, cultural sensitivity, ecological sensitivity, those are all very legitimate reasons for us to reject a tourism licence if they are founded. But just a veto without any rationale or explanation would be a problem for us, so we would want

to work with the region to understand the nature of their concerns. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Bell. Anything further, Mr. Villeneuve?

Yes, besides the historical, ecological and spiritual reasons given, are reasons related to employment given equal weight? Thank you.

Mahsi, Mr. Villeneuve. Minister Bell.

Mr. Chairman, it is a little different than the discussion I just had with the Member for the Sahtu because we are talking about the interim agreements. The section that talks about tourism licensing and the interim agreements. I don't think speaks to employment. Of course, where there is a settled claim, often, as I mentioned, there is the provision to enter into an access and benefits agreement. It isn't quite the same in the unsettled regions. I will certainly concede that. But these are the kinds of discussions we need to have as we sit down to talk about what happens. We try to make sure that when the rubber hits the road, community interests are protected. We do have to go region by region, as I have said before. It's going to be difficult to have a boilerplate model or example here. I think we are going to have to be flexible and come up with some process that works in each of the regions. Thank you.