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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Does the committee agree that...Oh. Sorry. Page 4-8, infrastructure acquisition plan, Technology Service Centre, tangible capital assets, total tangible capital assets, $1.775 million, total activity, $1.775 million.

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Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Page 4-10, infrastructure acquisition plan, petroleum products division, tangible capital assets, total tangible capital assets, $6.835 million, total activity, $6.835 million, and total department, $9.253 million.

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Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Does committee agree that that concludes our consideration of the budget for the Department of Public Works and Services?

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Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Roland, Mr. Gable, Mr. Aumond. At this time we will take a 15-minute break.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, committee. I'll call the committee to order. First off, I will ask the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment to provide his opening comments on his department's estimates.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Speaker, the 2006-07 Main Estimates we bring forward today for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment total over $259 million for operations and maintenance and amortization of our capital assets. These estimates represent a net increase of $14.2 million, or six percent, over the 2005-2006 Main Estimates. This covers program growth and Collective Agreement increases. The main estimates also include additional funding for full-time kindergarten programs, inclusive schooling, community-based distance learning college programs, student financial assistance and senior supplementary benefits.

The main estimates support the broad goals of this government. As well, they were developed to strengthen departmental services and improve program results based on the goals and objectives outlined in the department's new strategic plan, Building on Our Success. The plan was released recently after extensive consultation with members of the public, as well as our departmental partners and this Legislature, and will be used to guide activities over the next decade.

I would like to highlight a few key activities of the department.

Education And Culture

First, within the education and culture activity of the department, we propose to spend $147.2 million on programs and services to residents of the NWT. Spending in this area includes monies for early childhood development programs and schools, as well as cultural and heritage programs.

Early Childhood Development

For 2006-2007, we plan to spend $4.7 million on early childhood development activities. These activities will add to the early learning provided at home to help provide children with a healthy start in life and to give them the learning tools they need to succeed in school and beyond.

As Members know, this government was in negotiations with the Government of Canada to establish a new Early Learning and Childcare Agreement, ELCC, over the course of the past year. Prior to the federal election, negotiations for additional base funding, in addition to the per capita amount, had not lead to an agreement acceptable to the Northwest Territories, leaving $941,000 in one-time monies available to the ELCC trust fund.

In the budget before you, we have not shown this money from the federal trust or increased the budget for early learning and childhood programs. I intend to bring forward the request for the approval of supplementary funding early in the new fiscal year to add the money available through the trust fund into our early childhood programming.

School System

For the 2006-2007 fiscal year, the department is budgeting over $135.6 million to support our schools. Most of this money will go directly to education authorities at the regional and community level.

Over the past decade, we have made steady progress in strengthening the school system. During the next fiscal year, we are planning specific actions to support improved results at all levels of the school system.

The third stream of programming or "Pathways" through second secondary school is now well underway. The emphasis of the Pathways Program is on the development of courses that prepare students for the world of work. It also ties in with other high school offers that are more academically or trades focused. In 2006-2007, we intend to increase funding by $50,000 and to complete the work begun in previous years.

The 2006-07 Main Estimates include an additional $1.638 million to fund education authorities so they can offer full-time kindergarten programs. The implementation of full-time kindergarten will help ensure we are giving children the best possible start.

As well, $1.764 million is being added to increase the budget for inclusive schooling from 15 percent to 17 percent of overall school funding for the 2006-2007 academic year. This initiative will be supported by the introduction of a new inclusive schooling directive and is part of a longer-term plan to increase the budget to 20 percent of school funding by 2008-2009. This increased funding will allow schools to expand assistance to students who require supports such as: program modification, counselling, behavioural intervention, specialized rehabilitation, medical services, personal assistance and specialized equipment.

Mr. Chairman, this government is committed to culture-based education and to supporting education in official languages other than English. The aboriginal languages and culture based education directive promotes the integration of language and culture throughout K to 12 programs. The directive outlines the requirement for culturally appropriate learning and provides direction to education authorities with respect to the $7.6 million in this budget to support aboriginal language and culture programs.

It is also important to note that the recently signed agreement between the Government of Canada and the Council of Ministers of Education, Canada for minority-language education and second-language instruction will provide an additional $1.1 million for French language instruction in 2006-07. Although the agreement was not signed in time to show the increase in the 2006-07 estimates now before you, it will be brought in through supplementary estimates.

Official Languages

Mr. Chairman, the department has continued its work in a number of areas related to official languages. During the past year, and as we look ahead, we are continuing to take actions including:

  • • revising legislation, policies and regulations to more clearly describe roles and responsibilities related to languages;
  • • consolidating language functions related to overall government activities;
  • • reinforcing accountability related to language funding with departments and education authorities; and
  • • increasing contact with language communities through partnership with the official languages and aboriginal language revitalization boards.

In 2006-07, ECE is proposing to spend $2.2 million on official languages activities. Most of this funding will be used to support the language plans and activities of the official languages communities. In addition, we are negotiating with the Government of Canada to renew the Cooperation Agreement for French and Aboriginal Languages. Finalization of the renewal of this agreement has been delayed as a result of the recent federal election.

Advanced Education And Careers

Within the advanced education and careers activity, the department proposes to spend $42 million. Programs and services in this area provide northerners with access to career development, skills training and post-secondary education needed to successfully participate in our expanding economy.

The department is working with other governments and industry to assist northerners to access training and work in the growing resource sector. Examples of this work include the department's participation in the Aboriginal Skills and Employment Partnership agreements, or ASEP, and in socio-economic negotiations on major resource development projects.

Community-based education programs are needed to prepare residents from our small communities to enter post-secondary programs such as teacher education, education assistant and early childhood work. In 2006-07, an additional $240,000 is budgeted to fund Aurora College to pilot distance learning access programs focused on attracting community residents into education-related careers. If the pilot proves to be successful, the department will bring forward a request for ongoing funding to support the delivery of this program.

As a first step in examining whether we should develop a framework for increasing GNWT involvement in labour, this government has consolidated all employment and labour functions in the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. Over the next year, ECE will complete the consultation leading to amendments to our Labour Standards Act.

Income Security Programs

Within the income security activity, the department proposes to spend $63.9 million during fiscal year 2006-07. Spending in this area includes monies for student financial assistance, income support and public housing subsidy programs. Given limited resources and the requirement that those in the greatest need receive support, it is necessary that we carefully review and adjust our income security activities.

We have started this process to rationalize our programs under a common policy framework and model. This began with the consolidation of the funding for housing subsidies within income support programs offered by the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. On April 1, 2006, one-stop community service centres will begin delivering a range of income security programs. A regional career centre will support each community service centre. Clients will be able to access programs including: senior fuel subsidy, senior supplementary benefits, income assistance and housing subsidies, as well as be able to obtain information on student financial assistance and a number of federal income security programs.

These actions are part of a process that is expected to take several years, as it will involve extensive discussion and review. This is difficult work that will involve a lot of consultation and careful planning. In the end, it should result in GNWT programs that are clearly targeted to increase self-reliance, a critical foundation of our government's strategic plan.

ECE will assume administration of the $32.6 million Public Housing Rental Subsidy Program on April 1, 2006. The department is budgeting $1.3 million to support the transfer of this responsibility from the NWT Housing Corporation. Savings in administration costs in the corporation will offset the increase.

In recent years, student financial assistance benefit levels have not kept up with the increasing cost of post-secondary education in Canada. In 2006-07, ECE is budgeting an additional $573,000 to increase the tuition and textbook supports under the basic grant from $1,750 and $300 per semester to $1,925 and $400 respectively. At these levels, aboriginal and northern-schooled students will find it less necessary to access repayable loans to meet their basic expenses.

Payments to seniors also need to be adjusted for inflation. To assist low-income seniors with the high cost of living in the Northwest Territories, the main estimates include an additional $326,000 to increase their monthly benefit allowance that seniors receive under the Northwest Territories Senior Citizens' Supplementary Benefit Program by $25, from $135 to $160 per month.

Infrastructure - Capital Expenditures

Finally, the departmental budget is supported with a request for continued investment in suitable education facilities over the plan period. With more than 70 educational facilities across the Northwest Territories, a number of which are nearing the end of their operational life, it is not surprising that we need to continue to make investments in educational facilities.

The 2006-07 infrastructure acquisition plan profiles more than $120 million of improvements to school and college facilities over the three years of the plan. New schools will be constructed in Tulita and Ndilo. Schools in Gameti and Yellowknife will be renovated. We are currently examining whether the Chief T'Selehye School in Fort Good Hope should be renovated or replaced. The current plan indicates that the school is to be renovated, but we have been monitoring the building and an adjustment to the current plan may be necessary. As well, the addition of a new modular classroom in Colville Lake is being advanced so that it can be available for use during the 2006-07 school year. Finally, new student housing will be built at college campuses in Fort Smith and Inuvik.

This concludes my opening remarks. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Dent. I would now like to go to Ms. Lee, chair of the Standing Committee on Social Programs for the standing committee's comments on the main estimates. Thank you. Ms. Lee.

Introduction

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Standing Committee on Social Programs, as Members of the Accountability and Oversight committee, were involved in the new pre-budget consultation process with the people of the Northwest Territories in late August of 2005. Hearings were held north and south of the lake and gave northerners and non-governmental organizations the opportunity to provide input to MLAs on the priorities that the budget should focus on.

The committee then met with the Minister and his officials on Monday, September 26, 2005, to review the draft business plan of the Department of Education, Culture and Employment.

Members also received a briefing from the Minister of Finance on January 17, 2006, outlining the changes to the budget of the Department of Education, Culture and Employment since the committee reviewed the business plan in September.

Committee members made note that the department is proposing to spend $259.205 million in operations expense and $29.972 million on capital projects in fiscal year 2006-2007.

Committee members offer the following comments on issues arising out of the review of the 2006-2007 Draft Main Estimates and budget planning cycle.

Pre-Budget Consultations

During the pre-budget consultations, committee members took note of the following issues that were mentioned in a majority of the communities we visited: early childhood or day care programs, special needs funding for students in kindergarten to Grade 12, funding for literacy programs aimed at youth who are not in school and, finally, under post-secondary education, the need to increase student financial assistance for tuition and living expenses and increase the number of NWT residents in apprenticeships.

These issues will be commented on later in this report.

Aboriginal Languages

The committee found the discussion during the business plan review surrounding the revitalization of aboriginal languages to be very interesting. The possibility of the federal government creating a central agency for the revitalization of aboriginal languages is also of concern to the committee.

Members agree with the department's position that it is important to maintain a government-to-government relationship on funding for aboriginal languages. Being lumped in under a central agency could impact on the

amount of funding available for each language group, as territorial aboriginal language groups would be outnumbered by larger southern First Nations.

The standing committee also supports the renegotiation of the languages agreement with the federal government and the linkage of aboriginal languages and French language under one agreement.

Mr. Chairman, at this time, I would like to ask my colleague, the Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden, to continue with the report.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Braden.

Early Childhood Development (Day Care)

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The committee had supported the Minister in negotiating base funding in addition to any per capita funding that might flow out of a federal Early Childhood Development Framework Agreement.

However, with the recent change in government, and the uncertainty of federal funding to improve regulated day care in the NWT, it may be necessary to shift focus on our current early childhood programming.

As committee members heard during our pre-budget consultation process, residents are very concerned with the state of early childhood programs in the NWT. The lack of suitable infrastructure in smaller communities coupled with unstable funding and a piecemeal approach to programming is meaning that children are not getting the head start they should, and parents are being forced to use caregivers that may not be able to provide for their children's intellectual stimulation.

Committee members are of the opinion that the current programming related to day care in the Northwest Territories is geared towards larger communities that have the necessary volunteers and infrastructure to get a day care off of the ground.

The committee is aware there is extra funding available for smaller communities to get day care programs up and running but are, nonetheless, of the opinion that this extra funding does not go far enough in addressing the infrastructure needs and shortfalls at the community level. Committee would like to see the department bring forward a plan to improve and revitalize the current program. The committee is also very interested in seeing the outcome of the review of the day care program being undertaken by Alternatives North and would encourage the department to participate in the review process.

Mr. Chairman, it is realized we do not have the funding to deal with the infrastructure needs of a universal day care program in the Northwest Territories regardless of the amount of funding secured from the federal government in the future.

Subsequent to the review of the business plan, the committee did ask that the department consider dedicating one of the early childhood development positions to assisting communities/day care operators in finding suitable, long-term day care facilities in communities. Constituents have told committee members that the day care consultants seem to place a greater emphasis on the regulation of existing day care operators than on helping new operations get started or helping existing operations to survive and prosper. It was thought by the committee that reprofiling one of the positions to help new operators could be a positive step in increasing the number of licensed day care spaces in the Northwest Territories.

The department's response to this request, Mr. Chairman, was that the four regional early childhood education specialists were expected to offer this kind of assistance as part of their regular duties and that any new position or reprofiling would be redundant. Residents are encouraged to utilize the regional early childhood education specialists in setting up regulated day cares in their communities.

Members would be very interested in discussing any new ideas or initiatives that could address these issues during the review of income security programs and in the next business planning cycle.

Mr. Chairman, I would like to hand this over to my colleague, Mr. McLeod.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. McLeod.

Funding For Student Support Services (Special Needs Funding)

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. During the pre-budget consultations we heard from parents and the NWT Teachers' Federation on the need to increase funding for special needs students, and, in particular, for disabled students who require one-on-one assistance to function in a classroom.

The committee notes the department will be increasing funding for student support services to 20 percent from 15 percent of the base funding over the next three school years, starting with an increase to 17 percent in this budget at a cost of $1.764 million.

The committee is in support of this increased funding for student support services and of the strict enforcement of the ministerial directive on the usage of the funding for the purposes for which it was intended and voted on by the Assembly. Members will be looking for evidence that this funding increase will make a difference in the lives of children who need special supports to succeed.

Members were also pleased to see a mechanism for the involvement of parents in determining the required supports for their children is being developed. Members have spent too much time in the past helping parents access services for their child that should have been provided by the school as a matter of course. It is hoped that the increase to 20 percent of base funding for student support services will result in more children be supported to reach their full potential.

It was also noted that the new health and social services rehabilitation teams will be an important component of a revitalization of the student support services available in our schools. It is important that there be close linkages and cooperation between educational and health care professionals. The committee will be looking for evidence of such cooperation once the rehabilitation teams are staffed and up and running.

Pupil/Teacher Ratios

One of the significant accomplishments of the 14th Assembly was the reduction of the pupil to teacher ratio (PTR). During the pre-budget consultation we heard from parents and the NWT Teachers' Association on the need to reduce the PTR even further so that we can ensure that each student gets the individual attention and courses that they require to succeed in school.

With all of the opportunities that come with resource development, there is a clear need to expand the exposure of students, particularly at the high school level, to the trades.

Many schools in the NWT lack dedicated physical education teachers and, in the context of the Healthy Living Strategy, this needs to be addressed.

The standing committee will be looking for evidence of a focus on the trades and physical education during the next business planning cycle.

Mr. Chairman, at this time I would like to pass it on to my colleague, Mr. Jackson Lafferty from Monfwi.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Lafferty

Adult Training And Development And Aurora College

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. There were concerns expressed about the lack of a career counsellor in the Tlicho region. Members understand that the area is currently served by the North Slave Career Centre in Yellowknife and that counsellors travel to the region on an infrequent basis.

Given the fact that the Tlicho region has been accorded regional status, by virtue of the land claim and self-government agreement, and the successes that Tlicho residents have achieved in post-secondary education, the committee is of the opinion that it would be appropriate to staff a career counsellor position in the region. This does not necessarily have to be a new position. A position could be staffed through attrition at the North Slave Career Centre. The department has agreed to examine this request in the 2007-2010 business planning exercise.

Members would also appreciate the opportunity to review and offer comment on the Aurora College corporate plan that is currently under development. The college is very important to the future of all northerners, and Members are anxiously awaiting the results of the college's consultation and the formulation of a corporate plan.

Income Security Programs

The Standing Committee on Social Programs supports the increases to the Student Financial Assistance Program. Students have been hit hard by tuition increases in the last number of years and our program has not kept pace. The planned increase will allow students to spend more of the money they receive for living expenses on just that, instead of tuition costs.

It is important to note that the $573,000 increase to the student financial assistance budget will only mean a maximum of $1,925 per semester for tuition and $400 for books. Current tuition and fee costs per semester at the University of Alberta range between $2,647.86 for a simple undergraduate program to $9,340.46 for the dentistry program. While we continue to have the best Student Financial Assistance Program in the country, it is clear that we do not cover all costs for tuition and books. These increases will mean that students will have an extra $325 in their pockets each semester.

The committee also supports increasing the senior citizens' supplementary benefit to $160 per month from $135. Seniors, for the most part, are on fixed incomes. Those who rely on the Canada Pension Plan for the bulk of their income are hard pressed to make ends meet in the supercharged economy that is the Northwest Territories today and this increased support is a welcome measure.

Members have also noted that there is a gap that hard-to-house people seem to fall into between the programs that are offered through the NWT Housing Corporation and the local housing authorities and the programs administered by income support. Members are aware of people living in substandard, private accommodations paid for by income support because they are no longer eligible for social housing for one reason or another.

It is hoped with the combining of these two programs under one authority that problems with hard-to-house people can be addressed.

Mr. Chair, at this time I would like to pass it over to Mr. Calvin Pokiak to conclude.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Pokiak.

Full-Time Kindergarten

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

The committee is pleased to see the inclusion of funding in the amount of $1.638 million to deliver funded full-time kindergarten programming in the Northwest Territories.

Many district education authorities have already begun offering full-time kindergarten programs and have shown excellent results in preparing a child to learn and succeed in school. It was time to ensure that all kindergarten students in the NWT were afforded the same opportunity to develop the skills to learn.

The committee provided strong support to the Minister to advance this initiative by helping to ensure that the necessary legislative amendments to the Education Act were passed and by making our colleagues aware of the importance, and successes, of full-time kindergarten programs.

The Minister and department are to be commended in securing the funding to provide full-time kindergarten programming. It is hoped that we will see marked improvements in graduation rates and attendance in years to come.

Funding For Students Over The Age Of 21 Attending High School

The standing committee was made aware of the cuts to funding students over the age of 21 attending high school during the review of the business plans in September. At the time, it seemed reasonable to provide sufficient funding to a student for three additional years to complete

their graduation requirements, and the committee had no serious concerns with the proposed cut at that time.

Subsequent to the review of the business plan, the committee held a public hearing on bills and other matters in the community of Behchoko and heard concerns expressed on the ending of funding for students attending high school over the age of 21 and the efficiency of adult basic education courses being offered through Aurora College. We heard of parents and grandparents, who have decided to go back to high school at the same time as their children or grandchildren, who have ended up being positive role models, and by their attendance alone, a calming influence on all the children, resulting in a more positive learning environment.

The committee now believes it erred in not objecting to the proposed cut to funding for students over the age of 21 who chose to attend high school. The fact is, as a government, we would be expending funding on some of these students to attend Adult Basic Education. So does it really matter which pot of funding pays for their education? It's the results that count.

The committee will be pursuing further discussions with the Minister and affected communities and looking for ways to strike a compromise.

Capital Plan

The committee is aware that the results of next summer's piling inspections may require either increased funding or a reprofiling or delay of existing capital projects that are in the infrastructure acquisition plan. The first priority for this government and the department must always be the safety of our children in our schools.

Mr. Chair, the committee would appreciate being kept advised of the results of the piling inspections as they come in. That concludes our comments on Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. I would now like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if he wishes to bring in witnesses.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Yes, please, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Dent. Does committee agree we entertain witnesses?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you. I would like to ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses in.

Thank you. Mr. Dent, I would like you to please introduce your witnesses.