This is page numbers 793 - 842 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I'd ask Mr. Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort Mr. Krutko's witnesses to the table.

For the record, then, I'd like to welcome Mr. Koe and Mr. Anderson back to the chamber. On general comments, first on the list I have Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd just like to make a few comments with regard to the lands required for potential future houses. I'm just wondering if the Minister can indicate to me, on this side here, on whether he's spoken with the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation in regard to potential lands for building units. The reason I say this, Madam Chair, is in Paulatuk, Holman, Sachs and Tuktoyaktuk, I know of at least a couple of units that are on private land, on Inuvialuit land. So I'm just wondering. In the case of Tuktoyaktuk, we really don't have any other areas to move it to, unless it's on private land, Inuvialuit land. So I'm just wondering if the Minister has made any contact with Inuvialuit land administration, IRC in Inuvik, to access Inuvialuit land. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we have our regional director, Mr. Frank Carmichael...Carpenter, sorry, who has been working with the communities and the Inuvialuit lands administration office to realize we do have this problem, especially in Tuk and other Inuvialuit communities, because the Inuvialuit lands do surround those communities and because of the expansion. So we do have our regional staff working with our local housing authorities, but also in conjunction with the Inuvialuit organizations. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. Just in that regard, I'm just wondering, has your department actually sat down with the lands department in Tuktoyaktuk to actually access those private lands? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, our lands people are working with all communities where we are going to be delivering housing over the next couple of years, and sitting down with the people that are responsible for lands in those communities, and they also are meeting with the Inuvialuit land administration.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think the point I'm trying to get here is right now it's very important that the department, or whoever's responsible for the department, that they take the lead in those roles. Right now, if we start looking at units coming in in the future here, especially for those Inuvialuit settlement region communities, now is the time to negotiate access to the lands for the access roads, the lots required for the units. So I'm just going to ask the Minister again, how far are the negotiations going in regard to actually accessing these private lands? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, like I stated earlier, we do have lands people that have been in contact with our region and also with the affected communities to identify these lots that we are going to require with the 185 units. A large portion of those are going to Inuvialuit communities. So we are sitting right now, negotiating with the people that we have to deal with in regards to lands area. In order to get the title or acquire the lands, we're going to need to do this construction this summer. We presently have people already in place working on that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. Just to on to another subject, especially in terms of the transfer of the funds from NWT Housing Corp to ECE, I'm just wondering if the department actually had training for their TROs to find out what's happening in that regard. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we have had workshops with our field staff, in which they are in the process now of looking at the collections of rent or whatever we have to collect. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think what I'm asking the Minister is with the transfer of the funds from the Housing Corporation to the ECE in regard to income support, et cetera, I'm just wondering if the housing managers were able to have a workshop, or the TROs, so they could understand exactly what it means for their workload. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we have had workshops with our staff and also Department of Education, Culture and Employment are working with the tenants to make them aware of this new change. We have had workshops with our staff in our LHOs and communities. We have gone through that process, orientation and whatnot, and what's going to happen April 1st and how we're going to transfer that over to our regional managers and our regional staff.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to go back in terms of the opening remarks for the Housing Corporation. I just want to go back to the senior citizens' home repair. I know of two people in my riding who are elders and living on pensions and they have, on a number of occasions, tried to get funding from the NWT Housing Corporation under that home repair program. As far as I know, they've been refused on both occasions. I'm just wondering if the Minister can clarify once more whether there is a ceiling in terms of dollars that they make. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, there are thresholds that are set and if you exceed that threshold, you are not eligible for those programs. It's based on income, income level, and there are verifications done to determine what your income is and whether you are eligible or not for those programs. So there is that. We do have a threshold that we determine and based on your income, if you're below that threshold, you're eligible; if you exceed that threshold, you are ineligible. There is a set threshold for this program. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Pokiak.