Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the information FMBS is looking into, would that be made available to us and what's the time frame for that?
Debates of March 9th, 2007
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would be happy to sit down and work with committee as we go through this process. I don't have a timeline as of yet, but as we proceed I would be prepared to sit down with committee and keep them informed. I have been informed that information was passed along as things progressed in the past is what I have been informed as well. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to get more specific, could I ask the Minister if we could expect to see that before the next session in May? Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as Members have stated, this is an issue that is very big. To the details we are getting involved with and the work that was happening, I am not sure if we can have that before next session, but I will keep Members apprised of where we are in the timelines and how far we are along with the work.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Roland. Before we proceed, maybe I can draw your attention to the gallery. I would like to recognize Caroline Koe-Simpson from Whati. I understand she's the mother of one of the Pages here.
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Yes, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to pick up where Ms. Lee left off and that is in terms of consultation with the committee. I am not a member of the Standing Committee on Social Programs, but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to think that the hospital was anywhere near the deficit situation that it finds itself in today. As I mentioned earlier, the big fear is for me that the department is going to force the hospital to make some tough decisions in order to recover this deficit. If the Minister does have a deficit recovery plan, will he come back to this House to talk to Members before any of that recovery plan is proceeded upon?
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would be prepared to sit down with committee and inform them of the necessary steps that needed to be taken. As I stated, there is a policy in place that deals with a surplus or deficit recovery issues and all health board are aware of it. If we find areas where appropriations were made that don't fall into normal programming, we would find each one of our facilities or authorities ready to deal with the issue and usually it means tough decisions. I would be more than happy to sit down with committee once we come up with a plan as to how this is going to be. If we find that, in fact, there's been a chronic underfunding of certain areas, that would come forward in another supplementary appropriation piece. If we find that we need to go through a recovery plan, once I have worked with the appropriate bodies, I would be happy to come back to committee and say here is what the plan is looking like. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Getting back to the underfunding, I would like to know if the Minister could share with us, and it doesn't have to be today, but in that time frame from 2005-2006 to today, what funding request was put forward by the hospital to the Department of Health and Social Services and why were they refused? I think that's an important piece to this and Ms. Lee alluded to it a little bit earlier. Let's find out what they asked for. I want to know why the Department of Health and Social Services continually turned them down.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Ramsay continues to say the department has turned them down. That may have been true in a number of cases. It may have been the FMB that turned down the request because it felt it didn't have accurate information to substantiate an increase in spending. It's not going to be that every time an authority or a facility makes a request for increased spending that they are going to get it approved as we have known across the board. Each department makes requests and not all of them get approved, but I will prepare that information and prepare, as I stated, to sit down with committee. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On this topic, I think it's important to get this out, in terms of other health authorities that are out there, I think we need to come up with a comprehensive plan to fund our health authorities. If they are chronically underfunded and I am not just talking about Stanton in this case, but across the territory. If some of them are in dire straits like Stanton is, what are we going to do about it? I think that's a big question. This is a big issue, Mr. Chairman, and I know that the Finance Minister, Health Minister, knows that it is a big issue. It's a huge issue, especially if that hospital hasn't gotten funding requests approved over the past three years. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as I stated earlier, the policy has been in place. A surplus/deficit policy has been in place for quite some time. Again, I would gladly share that with Members in committee. We can go through a full briefing on this and we will have the necessary information. As I state again for the record, even though authorities or boards make a request for additional funding, they don't always get that and that happens on a yearly basis when departments are asked to prepare for the business plan cycle. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you. We are on page 10, Health and social Services, operations expenditures, health services programs, not previously authorized, $9.860 million.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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