This is page numbers 181 - 234 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was alcohol.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I have a question for the Minister. Mr. Chair, the funding for conversion of the JBT Elementary School and Thebacha Campus for the fuel fire heat to interruptible hydroelectric heat, is that something that is going to be a model for other centres or just a one time for the community of Fort Smith? I just want to know if that's going to be something that is going to be used in other regions in helping them with their hydroelectrical heat, I guess. Is it a pilot project?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Before I continue, I would like to recognize a couple of people up in the gallery: Tyler Dent and Ben Malmsten. Thank you for coming in today.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the area of the work, the conversion on the three facilities in Fort Smith is a pilot project. Based on the results of that as well as the availability of electricity through the hydro facility, they would be looked at once this is completed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the amount that we are spending, the pilot project that is going to be, is this going to be used in other areas in terms of the conversion? I want to ask the Minister that, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the reason this is being looked at is the availability of low cost electricity off the hydro facility by the community of Fort Smith looking to switch off from the oil fire to electric heat. That is why this is being looked at. One of the things we have to look at is the availability, number one in that area, if there is continued availability of the surplus capacity at the Taltson hydro facility. In other communities in the Northwest Territories, it would be more difficult to make this pay because of the high cost of generating the electricity through other communities that are provided through diesel fired generators. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Page 28, asset management, not previously authorized, $2.040 million. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just on the same matter as Mr. Yakeleya was raising but on a different screen, what was the valuation on how much money they would save by switching over when you consider the money of just over $900,000 to do all this conversion? How much money are they looking at saving over what predictable lifespan are they talking about? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, looking at the cost of the electricity through the facility and in comparison to the price of home heating oil, it was felt that the recovery of the cost could be done in three to five years.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That just seems too good to be true. Is he saying that even with the increase in the power bill, the offsetting difference between what is estimated for the fuel price and that, that we would be able to pay for this project within three to five years? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, with the information and the work between the department and the supplier of power, it's felt that they could, again varying on the price of home heating oil as it fluctuates, they could recover these costs in a matter of three to five years.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Well, I did not believe him the first time, but now that we have this newfound revelation before us, will this be the only project or is he anticipating more projects to come forward in the near future? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the idea is to look at if this in fact can be achieved, and the second piece of this is the availability of the hydroelectricity beyond the window that is being looked at: about six years. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Public Works and Services, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $2.040 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Technology Service Centre, not previously authorized, $862,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Petroleum products, not previously authorized, $6.861 million.