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NWT Capital Eestimates 2009–2010 (Continued)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

The next person on our list is Mrs. Groenewegen.

NWT Capital Eestimates 2009–2010 (Continued)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Minister of Finance has kindly offered to provide some additional information on this matter before us right now, so I have a motion, if it could be distributed.

NWT Capital Eestimates 2009–2010 (Continued)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Please proceed, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 80-16(2) Deferral Of Consideration Of Education And Culture Activity In Education, Culture And Employment Capital Estimates (Td 93-16(2)) (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity “Education and Culture” under the Department of Education, Culture and Employment — Capital Estimates 2009–2010 on pages 7-7 and 7-8 at this time.

Committee Motion 80-16(2) Deferral Of Consideration Of Education And Culture Activity In Education, Culture And Employment Capital Estimates (Td 93-16(2)) (Committee Motion Carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The motion is on the floor and is being distributed now. The motion has been distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 80-16(2) Deferral Of Consideration Of Education And Culture Activity In Education, Culture And Employment Capital Estimates (Td 93-16(2)) (Committee Motion Carried)
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Some Honourable Members

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Question is being called.

Committee motion carried.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

We’re going to defer pages 7-7 and 7-8. By extension, we will also be deferring page 7-2. Shall we move on to the next department, committee?

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Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

The next department is the Department of Transportation. We’re going to defer until after consideration of the Activity Summary page 8-2, so we’ll move on to 8-4. Page 8-4, Department of Transportation, Activity Summary, Airports, Infrastructure Investment Summary, Total Infrastructure Investment Summary: $17.103 million. Agreed?

Department of Transportation, Activity

Summary, Airports, Infrastructure Investment Summary, Total Infrastructure Investment Summary: $17.103 million, approved.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Next

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Transportation, Activity Summary, Marine, Infrastructure Investment Summary, Total Infrastructure Investment Summary: $645,000. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regard to the Coast Guard regulations that we operate under for marine vessels and also the types of weight that can be carried on specific ferries, I know that the pipeline companies are looking at their transportation option of moving goods and services by highway. In regard to crossings I know there were some questions asked about the Peel River ferry having the capacity to take on some of these heavier loads that we’re probably going to see during the construction of the pipeline.

I would like to ask exactly what this government is doing to ensure we do have the capacity to replace that ferry so it can carry heavier loads and also that companies see that the public’s safety is taken into account and we follow federal Coast Guard regulations. I’d like to ask: exactly what are we doing in regard to movement of goods and services and the safety of people on our marine vessels?

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr.

Krutko. Minister Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have to refer that question to Mr. Neudorf.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Mr. Neudorf.

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Russ Neudorf

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Abraham Francis Ferry that operates on the Peel River is able to safely accommodate all the highway traffic that moves up the Dempster Highway at the present time. It is authorized by Transport Canada, which sets the regulations for all of our ferries.

We have also been discussing the use of the Dempster Highway and the use of the ferries there with the pipeline proponents. They have indicated to date that they expect only minor impact on the ferries. We’ll continue to follow up on those discussions with the pipeline proponents as their logistical plans get further developed to see if, in fact, that’s the case and to ensure that our infrastructure, be it ferries or highways or airports, will meet their requirements.

The final point is that some of the regulations on vessel stability are changing. We’ve been informed that this is coming, so we are making the necessary changes to our vessels. The Abraham Francis Ferry is one of those vessels that will need a change at some time in the future, and that’s why the one project is here.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister elaborate on how far into the future he is talking about replacing this vessel?

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Russ Neudorf

We are not currently considering replacing the vessel. We are looking at and are in the process, actually, of upgrading the vessel.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I know there was a major overhaul in regard to the ferry on the Mackenzie crossing at Tsiigehtchic. There were four engines replaced on the vessel. I know that this summer they had problems with one of the engines, which went down. They were operating with only three engines.

I’d like to know if there was any warranty in regard to that particular project. Why is it that with brand new engines we’re already seeing these problems by way of new replacements? Not even a year into

the project we’re already having problems with it. What types of warranties do we cover on these types of replacements, and exactly why are we already seeing these types of problems?

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr.

Krutko. Just as a reminder, it’s getting a little bit noisy in here. If Members wish to carry on sidebars, they could take them outside of the Chamber. Minister Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I’d refer that to Mr. Neudorf, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Mr. Neudorf.

Committee Motion 80-16(2) Deferral Of Consideration Of Education And Culture Activity In Education, Culture And Employment Capital Estimates (Td 93-16(2)) (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Russ Neudorf

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct that we did have a project last year to replace the four engines on the Louis Cardinal Ferry at Tsiigehtchic. That project was successfully concluded, and the ferry has been operating all this summer.

He is also correct that there was a minor issue with one of the engines on the ferry, and that was corrected through some of the warranty work and the contract we had in place.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr.

Neudorf. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 80-16(2) Deferral Of Consideration Of Education And Culture Activity In Education, Culture And Employment Capital Estimates (Td 93-16(2)) (Committee Motion Carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you.