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Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I should point out that the description used by the Members of this House to describe our roads is a little unfair. Our roads are all considered to be safe. We may have a few potholes and not open year round, but we have different categories of roads. We have winter roads, gravel roads, roads that have chipseal. They all require investment.

I think everybody in this House recognizes that most of our transportation infrastructure and highway system is at the point where it needs to be reconstructed. They need to have investment and investment dollars that we really don’t have except to allow maintenance and ensure that we have the travelling public’s safety in mind.

We also, at the same time, have many bridges and many culverts that need to be replaced. They’re at that point in the cycle where they need replacing and investment. The Member has mentioned the investment made in the Sahtu. By the end of this government we hope to have at least 39 bridges all constructed and finished in those areas in that region. It really requires a lot of investment.

The rationale behind doing all these projects is to provide transportation for as many months of the year as possible. There is, of course, direction that comes from this House. In the previous government there was, I think, very clear direction by the Members that we needed to invest in roads that connect communities. Up to now the majority of our funding went to roads that had been impacted by resource development, projects and resource development in the area. The bulk of our money went into Highway No. 3, Highway No. 1 and the Sahtu.

We’re trying to spread it around. We recognize that we need to invest more money and reconstruct Highway No. 8. We recognize that we need to reconstruct and pick up where we left off on Highway No. 7, and it has to be reconstructed.

A lot of these projects, including the work that needs to be done on Highway No. 1, are a result of deferred investment. Now we’re seeing some direction that we thought we had from the previous government to invest in Highway No. 5 and Highway No. 6 to ensure that there are safe roads there and also to try to keep it to a standard that would allow the traffic to travel back and forth. We have plans to reconstruct portions of that road, of highways No. 5 and No. 6. We also have plans to

chipseal a good part of those roads. We’d like to see more investment in there, of course, but at this point we have to identify other sources.

This highway provides a real essential link for two communities, and that’s Fort Resolution and Fort Smith. So those two communities are dependent on this road for access to the southern part of Canada and Hay River and also into the North Slave. You know, we need to find additional dollars to upgrade it. We need to do more, of course, to reconstruct it, and there are two sources of funding that we’ve been pursuing. One is through negotiations with Wood Buffalo Park that would allow us to match dollars or have a partnership arrangement to invest in this highway. The other one is to try to earmark some of the dollars that we have negotiated through the Building Canada Fund

to be allocated

to these two community links.

There is other investment, of course, that is required to some of the smaller communities: the access roads, Nahanni Butte, Jean Marie, Hay River reserve. They all need investment, and those have to be considered. But in this case this is an issue where we wanted to maintain the upkeep of the road. Somebody’s mentioned that the road is in pretty good shape. I am very happy to hear that. We consider it to be a very safe and reliable link; however, we’d like to keep it that way. Investing these dollars to reconstruct portions of it — upgrade it so that we can chipseal it — would maintain that standard. So that’s the rationale behind this, and it was also included as part of our business planning that was carried over from the last government.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. To the motion, Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to note that while the Members have indicated they want to make a point about how money is allocated, we’ve spent in my life in this Assembly probably over $100 million on highways No. 3, No. 4 and No. 2, and we’ve waited patiently for 12, 13 years to try to get a piece of road upgraded. It is interesting to hear Members tell one of the smaller communities — the ones that already have the best roads in the country — to suck it up and donate some of the money back. There are tens of millions of dollars in there for highways No. 3 and No. 4 but no suggestion that maybe it should be those that have the most that contribute this small amount of money. You folks have decided to reach very specifically into one of the smaller constituencies to make your case and raise the issue of noble sentiment about the message. That will be the will of the House, but it rings somewhat hollow to me, and I can assure you it will ring completely hollow to my constituents.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. To the motion. Question?

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Some Honourable Members

Question.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Question has been called. I’ll call upon Mr. Krutko to conclude the debate on the motion.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’d like to thank my colleagues who support the motion. Again, the motion is to ensure that we do invest our dollars where it’s most urgently needed. No offence to my colleague in Fort Smith, but there is still $1.4 million that’s going to be expended on the chipseal project this year. I think it’s clear that this government has to ensure that public safety is paramount for whatever we do here.

With that, Mr. Chair, I would request a recorded vote on this motion.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The Member has requested a recorded vote. All those in favour, please stand.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Krutko, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Menicoche, Mr. Ramsay, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Jacobson, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Yakeleya.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

All those opposed.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Roland, Mr. Michael McLeod, Mr. Robert McLeod, Mr. Bob McLeod.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Any abstentions? The results of the recorded vote on the motion are ten in favour, seven opposed, zero abstentions. The motion is carried.

Committee motion carried.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

We’re on page 8-10. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Chairman, I move that we report progress.

Motion carried.

Committee Motion 81-16(2) Deletion Of $1.4 Million From Highways Activity For Highway No.5 Km 0–266, Chipseal Project Under The Department Of Transportation (Committee Motion Carried)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Continued)

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Minister Miltenberger, if I can get you to thank your witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, if I could please get you to escort the witnesses out of the Chamber. Thank you.

I will now rise and report progress.

The House resumed.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Could I have the report of Committee of the Whole, please, Mr. Abernethy.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Tabled Document

93-16(2) and would like to report progress, with two motions being adopted.

I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. A motion is on the floor. Do we have a seconder? The Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Motion carried.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Item 22, third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, Orders of the Day.

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Speaker, there’ll be a meeting of the Board of Management at adjournment today.

Orders of the Day for Monday, October 20, 2008, 1:30 p.m.

1) Prayer

2) Ministers’

Statements

3) Members’

Statements

4) Returns to Oral Questions

5) Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

6) Acknowledgements

7) Oral

Questions

8) Written

Questions

9) Returns to Written Questions

10) Replies to Opening Address

11) Petitions

12) Reports of Standing and Special Committees

13) Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

14) Tabling of Documents

15) Notices of Motion

16) Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

17) Motions

Motion 24: Tiered Vehicle Registration System

Motion 25: Food Mail Program Audit

Motion 26: NWT Milk Subsidy Program

18) First Reading of Bills

Bill 21 - Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2009–2010

19) Second Reading of Bills

20) Consideration in Committee of the Whole of

Bills and Other Matters

Minister’s Statement 80-16(2): Sessional Statement

Tabled Document 93-16(2): NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010

Bill 14 - An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act

Bill 15 - An Act to Amend the Workers’ Compensation Act

Bill 16 - Write-off of Debts Act, 2008–2009

Bill 17 - Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2008–2009

21) Report of Committee of the Whole

22) Third Reading of Bills

23) Orders of the Day

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Monday, October 20, 2008, at 1:30 p.m.

The House adjourned at 2:01 p.m.