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Bill 21 Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2009–2010
Second Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Item 19, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters, Minister’s Statement 80-16(2), Bills 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, with Mr. Abernethy in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

October 20th, 2008

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Good afternoon, colleagues. Before we commence with our Committee of the Whole business for today, I wish to provide my ruling on the point of order raised by the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake on Friday, October 17, 2008.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Mr. Roland rose on a point of order with regard to comments made inCommittee of the Whole by Mr. Bromley in the context of debate on capital estimates. Mr. Roland asserted that Mr. Bromley was in contravention of Rule 23(i), which states, “A Member will be called to order…if the Member imputes false or hidden motives to another Member.”

I reviewed the unedited transcripts from last Friday, and I rule that you do not have a point of order, Mr. Roland. The Chair cannot agree with your assertion that the Member for Weledeh had initiated debate that questioned the credibility of a Member of Cabinet or imputed false or hidden motives. However, we can all agree that Mr. Bromley was asking a number of questions about process. In fact, the Chair notes that Mr. Bromley prefacedmany of his comments and questions by using words or phrases such as “hypothetical,” “potentially” or “may end up.” It was also of great

assistance to the Chair to note that Mr. Bromley was very explicit in his intentions when he stated: “I’m not levying accusations here or anything. I’m trying to highlight what’s potentially a new and increasing situation we have here.”

I think it would be helpful to once again remind Members to choose your words carefully and to conduct yourselves in a fashion that maintains the dignity and decorum of this House. I think we owe it to our constituents.

I will pass the chair back to Mr. Krutko. On second thought, I’ll continue to sit in the chair.

Item 19, Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters. We’re looking at Member’s Statement 80-16(2), sessional statement; Bills 14, 15, 16, 17 and 19. What is the wish of the committee? Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The wish of the committee is to proceed with Bill 19, then 14, 16, 17 and the sessional statement, in that order.

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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Does committee agree?

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Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

Bill 19 Donation Of Food Act
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We’re on Bill 19, Donation of Food Act. At this time I’d like to ask the sponsor of the bill if she would like to make any opening comments. Ms. Bisaro.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I do have some opening comments.

I’m very pleased to provide comments on Bill 19, Donation of Food Act. Bill 19 is a new act that will ensure protection for donors of food and distributors of donated food from liability for their actions.

In all of our communities perfectly good food often goes to waste due to policies and standards established by food businesses and restaurants. Food is often wasted because we have too much food and too few attendees at social functions. Some concerned and committed individuals have started to rescue this food and pass it on to needy organizations and families. However, currently food donors are not protected from liability should the recipients of the food suffer any harm or injury. Bill 19 will provide such protection and allow NWT communities to establish legitimate food rescue programs safe from fear of prosecution.

It is my hope that eventually all NWT communities will establish food rescue programs for the benefit of those less fortunate in our society. I would like to

thank Mrs. Ruby Trudel, who brought forward the need for this bill, and commend her and her team for their work to date. I will be pleased to answer any questions that Members might have.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. At this time I’d like to ask the committee responsible for overseeing the bill if they have any general comments. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Standing Committee on Social Programs reviewed Bill 19, the Donation of Food Act, at a public meeting held Thursday, October 16, 2008. At the public meeting we heard from the sponsor of the bill, Ms. Bisaro, on the need to protect businesses that donate food for charity from liability concerns. We heard that many more restaurants and grocery outlets would donate food if the liability issues were dealt with.

The committee heard from Hon. Sandy Lee, Minister of Health and Social Services, on the government’s support for this legislation and the actions that her department takes to ensure food safety for all Northerners, including those who would benefit from donated food.

We also heard from Ruby Trudel, who advocated for such an act and is actively involved in the collection and distribution of donated food here in the city of Yellowknife. The committee applauds Mrs. Trudel’s efforts on behalf of less fortunate Northerners and the restaurants and grocery outlets that have made donations — or will do so in the future — to support her efforts.

It is important to note that this legislation is for the entire NWT and not just one organization in Yellowknife. As long as the donor is not selling the donated food, the food is fit for consumption and the donor does not intend to injure, they will be protected from liability. It is hoped that the passage of this important legislation will encourage others to work with their local restaurants and grocery stores to save edible food from going into the landfills.

In closing, we would like to thank our colleague the honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Wendy Bisaro, for sponsoring this important legislation and bringing it forward for this Legislature’s consideration.

This concludes the committee’s comments. Individual committee members may have questions or comments as we proceed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. At this time I’d like to ask Ms. Bisaro if she’ll be bringing any witnesses. Ms. Bisaro?

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I will.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Is the committee agreed that Ms. Bisaro brings in her witness?

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Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witness in. Thank you.

For the record, Ms. Bisaro, could you introduce your witness.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I’m sorry, Mr. Chair; perhaps you could repeat that. It’s very hard to hear back here.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Ms. Bisaro, for the record, could you introduce your witness, please.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Yes, certainly. Thank you, Mr. Chair. With me is Ms. Kelly McLaughlin. She’s legislative counsel, legislative division with the Department of Justice, GNWT.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Welcome, witness. General comments with regard to the Bill? Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On behalf of the government and as the Minister of Health and Social Services I would like to speak briefly in favour of this private Member’s public bill, Bill 19, Donation of Food Act. The proposed bill would exempt the donor, including individuals and businesses, from liability when donating food provided that the donor does not intend to injure and is not reckless. The bill does not apply to a person who distributes donated food for profit.

Mr. Chairman, the current Public Health Act regulates the safety and sanitary handling and preparation of food, but it is not designed to provide food donor protection from liability. This stand-alone piece of legislation will be able to fill that gap. The Public Health Act and its applicable regulations will continue to ensure that donated food is handled in a safe manner and applies to any establishment where food is served to the public.

Mr. Chairman, the bill before us today is consistent with other food donor protection legislation enacted in nine other jurisdictions in Canada. The legislation, when enacted, will be a useful tool in reducing wasted food, especially perishable products like vegetables and dairy products that are most frequently disposed of by retailers and food distributors. Rather than ending up in landfills, nourishing food will be distributed to those who are most in need. Given that all jurisdictions have substantially similar legislation, we feel confident that it can be safely implemented in the North.

Mr. Chairman, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Ms. Wendy Bisaro, Member for Frame Lake, for bringing this bill forward and all the other Members who have supported it. I would also like to personally recognize the valuable contribution of Mrs. Ruby Trudel, a well known Yellowknife resident who has taken on not only this latest

worthwhile initiative but many other public health and wellness issues over the years for the benefit of our residents, not only in Yellowknife but all over the North.

This legislation will go a long way in providing legislative assistance to our partners like the Mrs. Trudels in our communities large and small who volunteer their time and resources to provide food to those in need.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

General comments on the bill? Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just very briefly I wanted to add my voice of accolade here to Ms. Bisaro and Mrs. Trudel and to those who helped put this together.

We heard earlier today about some of the waste recovery proposals the Minister of ENR is proposing. This is a full cost accounting approach. We know that our food now comes from thousands of kilometres away. To have that energy expended and the cost.... A lot of that food going to waste is crazy in today’s world. So very briefly, all kudos, and I’m very happy to see this bill go forward.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

General comments? Clause by clause? Okay; we can draw our attention to Bill 19. We’re on page 1, clause 1.

Clauses 1 through 3 inclusive approved.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

To the bill as a whole.

Bill 19 as a whole approved.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does committee agree that Bill 19 is now ready for third reading?

Bill 19, Donation of Food Act, approved for

third reading.