This is page numbers 2135 - 2174 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

Alternative Energy Initiatives
Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories relies heavily on imported fossil fuels to meet our energy needs. Community resupply last year cost us about $22 million. Were we to include oil and gas for O and M, we would be over $50 million per year. In addition, our economy loses when we send this money south and then environmental, social and more financial costs accrue when we add to rather than reduce greenhouse gas emissions and climate change.

Mr. Speaker, peak oil is the point and time where we have used half of the world’s oil supply, the cheapest path by far. At the peak, the cost of fuel will rise dramatically. Optimistic estimates indicate peak oil will occur by 2017. Pessimistic views say it has already happened. Many middle of the road estimates figure peak oil is happening now. Back when world consumption was five billion barrels a year, we discovered reserves of 30 billion per year. Now we consume over 30 billion barrels a year and discover only about five billion. We have not made a giant discovery of oil for over a decade. Fairly, we need to reduce NWT reliance on fossil fuels. The current recession broke our ever-increasing demand for oil and the cost per barrel has plummeted. However, Mr. Speaker, Mark Carney of the Bank of Canada predicted our economy will be roaring in 2010, a year from now. Others believe the recession will last two or three years. This leaves us only one or two years of cheap oil before we can expect high and erratic oil prices once again. Many say we have not seen anything yet on what can happen to the price of oil, but surely we have seen enough.

Mr. Speaker, there is much in the budget before us on energy initiatives. I applaud these efforts. My intent today is to underscore the opportunity we have during possibly the last period of cheap oil and to ensure awareness that this window may be quite brief. We use oil for heating, power, importing food and supplies for infrastructure, roads, air travel and maintenance. This dependence on oil makes us highly vulnerable. We need to radically decrease this dependency. I urge our Cabinet and all community leaders and all residents of the NWT to be aware of this and act now to change how we do business. All plans on economic stimulus and infrastructure spending must include a strong element of energy conservation, fossil fuel reduction or replace them with renewable energy.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I request that this Cabinet immediately adopt a policy that commits the NWT using only low carbon fuels as the U.S. Energy Committee Chair Henry Waxman wants to see in the U.S. Given that we are downstream from the damaging high carbon fuel development in the tar sands, there are clearly additional northern benefits to such a policy. Mahsi.

Alternative Energy Initiatives
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Members’ Statements

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, in the 2009-10 financial statements, in the Minister’s opening remarks, there is something that jumps out at me which I am glad to see that they are going to be spending some $475,000 to add police officers and detachments in Fort McPherson, Fort Good Hope and Fort Liard as a way to increase patrols and stay in small communities without resident police RCMP members.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this time to thank the Minister of Justice for listening to the people in Tsiigehtchic in regards to finding ways of getting more police presence in their communities and also ensuring them that they do have a dedicated member who will be dedicated to work for that particular community. In light of that individual residing in Fort McPherson, Fort McPherson is only a half an hour away from Tsiigehtchic and I think this should be a way to solve that issue.

Mr. Speaker, policing is an important component of what happens in communities and gives the people some comfort knowing they were safe, secure and that the laws that we have will be enforced.

Mr. Speaker, the community of Tsiigehtchic over the years have done everything they can in regards to their powers by way of passing prohibition orders, enforcing laws by way of their bylaw officer. Yet, Mr. Speaker, that’s not enough.

Mr. Speaker, having an officer stay in the community, familiarizing themselves with the residents, meet with the community council, meet with the community organizations and working with the community to familiarize himself with the community knowing he has a…also have a commitment with the community and dedicate himself to ensure he familiarize himself with the residents.

Mr. Speaker, I, again, would like to take this time to thank the Minister, but this is not the end of it. The community of Tsiigehtchic would like to see an individual living in the community, having a police presence 24/7. Again, this is a good start and, with that, I would like to thank the Minister of Justice and maybe he can pass on some knowledge to the Minister of Health on how she can get some nursing services in Tsiigehtchic. Thank you.

Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it’s my pleasure today to recognize in the visitor’s gallery Mr. Rocky Simpson, a businessman from Hay River. Thank you.

Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to recognize Tom Brown, a constituent of Yellowknife Centre. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

I’d like to welcome everyone in the gallery today. I hope you are enjoying the proceedings. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Justice with regard to the statement I made today of putting police officers in Fort McPherson to serve the community of Tsiigehtchic. I would like to ask the Minister how soon can this initiative take place and when can the community of Tsiigehtchic have a dedicated officer to work with them and also give some assurance that we will try to move forward with this effort. More importantly, how soon is this initiative going to be rolled out?

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this particular area has been a concern by the community, the community of Tsiigehtchic and also surrounding communities. That’s one of the purposes we have proposed an additional PY for RCMP in the community of Fort McPherson; to deal with Tsiigehtchic. There was an incident in the community this past summer. So there has been a voice from the community, visiting community, and the outcome of that, we’ve stressed the importance of having an additional officer.

Mr. Speaker, part of that process will be going through that business planning process and once it’s approved by this House, certainly we will be establishing a unit in the community to serve the community of Tsiigehtchic and surrounding

communities. So we’re looking forward to that as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, in regards to the initiative, I know there was talk about looking at special constables and bringing them back in regards to this effort, but again the communities do have bylaw officers and whatnot. I would just like to know is that one of the other alternatives that the community can look at; to have someone trained as a bylaw officer or some sort of a special constable position to work along with the RCMP in those communities that don’t have policing so we can increase that capacity in those communities along with the police officer to have someone working alongside them.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Community Constable Program has been in the works for a number of years in the past and now the federal government wants to reintroduce that to the system again, especially for our jurisdiction in the Northwest Territories. We have been targeted to have up to three community policing officers to be trained and stationed in the Northwest Territories. We will continue to work closely with RCMP “G” Division, because it’s under their jurisdiction on the selection criteria. We will continue to voice the committee’s concerns and, yes, this would be part of the community safety and we’ll take all those into consideration. We need to identify somebody that is knowledgeable about the community that speaks the language. That will be one of the assets and basically we are replacing the special constable that we had before. Mahsi.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I’d like to also ask the Minister of Justice, we are looking at having permanent policing in communities. I know we’ve done that in Sachs, Wrigley and I know there are other communities. There are 10 communities I believe in the Northwest Territories that don’t have policing. So would this also end up at the point where we possibly can have policing in all communities that don’t have policing and basically have some sort of insurance that we will have some sort of service dedicated to those communities going forward? I would just like to ask the Minister, is that program also going to be considered for Tsiigehtchic where they potentially could have a permanent officer based in Tsiigehtchic?

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

February 10th, 2009

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, this particular program that the federal government announced is up to three officers stationed in the communities. Part of the program, the criteria, is they have to be stationed where the detachments are, but at the same time we have to work with the communities such as Tsiigehtchic or other communities. We are also proposing an officer in Fort McPherson to deal with Tsiigehtchic. So we

are talking about two different areas, but certainly those are the areas that we need to focus on with the community. Mahsi.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, is there going to be any additional equipment needed for the officer working in Tsiigehtchic such as radio communications or having a system? I know there was concern when we were at the public meeting in Tsiigehtchic from the RCMP, that they don’t have a lot of equipment based there in regard to communication systems, radios. In the case of…We have cell phone service, great. I would just like to know are there going to be other investments made to ensure we equip these officers so they can do their job in those communities and have the backup systems in case they need it in those communities? Thank you.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, certainly we will work with RCMP “G” division to make sure there is sufficient equipment in the community, to have officers in the community to do their daily routine work. We will continue to work with them to make sure it is in the works. Mahsi.

Question 96-16(3): Increased RCMP Presence In Communities
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, in the budget address the other day, I learned about a $3 million addition to the Territorial Power Subsidy Program for commercial customers. I am wondering what will this bring the total subsidy to this year, the territorial power subsidy, and what has been the trend in that figure over the last five or six years. Thank you.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Roland.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Territorial Power Support Program is held under the Department of Finance/FMBS. So I will redirect that to Minister Miltenberger.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The trend of the Territorial Power Support Program has been steadily upward. The underutilized part of the Power Support Program has been the commercial subsidy. The cost of living in the communities in many cases is driven by the high

cost of power especially in stores, which has a direct impact on the price of food. With the $3 million a year, it will be in the neighbourhood of $13 million plus whatever forced growth pressures there’s going to be on the residential Power Support Program. Thank you.

Question 97-16(3): Territorial Power Subsidy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Slightly confusing there that we have an underutilized fund that we’re adding $3 million to. I’m a little bit confused there. Will these dollars...Are they primarily aimed at commercial customers in diesel generation communities? Thank you.