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Question 165-16(3): Regional Health And Wellness Centre In The Sahtu
Oral Questions

Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Minister of Health and Social Services

The Member from Sahtu has raised issues for capital projects in terms of a

health facility in Colville Lake, regional wellness centre, a seniors facility in Sahtu and so we would have to do some more work to prioritize. We should also look at what the demands and needs are in the Territories for these facilities and prioritize them. Obviously, all of this work would require on my part to work with all of the Cabinet Members as well as the Members of this House. I will certainly be willing to see the Housing Minister to see if there are any funds there to support us from the federal government. Thank you.

Question 165-16(3): Regional Health And Wellness Centre In The Sahtu
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Your final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 165-16(3): Regional Health And Wellness Centre In The Sahtu
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, when I look at the Northwest Territories in terms of health and social services facilities, I see them in different regions. I don’t see anything in the Sahtu in terms of emergency shelters, seniors facilities or regional wellness centres. When I spoke to the regional health board CEO, the priority from the board was a regional wellness health centre. I am saying that we can be creative in terms of looking at funding that could be available because this is a long-term facility. We are looking at other options that we could do within the life of this Assembly. So that is what I am asking. Would the Minister put a dedicated person on file to work with the Sahtu Health Board staff to start identifying the details in terms of what facility could be available in the Sahtu in the future?

Question 165-16(3): Regional Health And Wellness Centre In The Sahtu
Oral Questions

Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Minister of Health and Social Services

I certainly agree with the Member that the Sahtu is probably…and I have to say I haven’t travelled to the Sahtu yet as the Minister of Health and Social Services. I have to go there and see for myself, but my understanding is that Sahtu is one without a long-term care facility for seniors, for example. I know that the health facility in Norman Wells was one that was transferred from the federal government and it is very aged. I will make the commitment to see what we have in Sahtu and work with him and the board to see how we prioritize the needs in the Sahtu and put it into the process. Thank you.

Question 165-16(3): Regional Health And Wellness Centre In The Sahtu
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my questions to the Premier today with respect to the ATCO proposal that… just to put it in a little bit of context, Mr. Speaker, we asked this government to look at supplementary health benefits so that the working poor can be looked after. We get a response that takes drastic

measures on a whole lot of other people. We agree in the strategic planning that we want an efficient and an effective government and we get a proposal back from this government to wipe out virtually every board in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, we stand up on a theme day and say the cost of power is too high in the Northwest Territories and a few members suggested the private sector seems to be doing a more effective job in delivering that. We get basically a proposal back from this government looking for a lot of manpower into considering just selling the Power Corporation. The rate is too high. Let’s just sell the Power Corporation. I know it is only in the investigative process right now, but, Mr. Speaker, it is causing so much angst and so much uncertainty in our community of Hay River. It just seems like this government is just responding to anything that kind of goes flying by. I’m not against constitutional discussions either but we can’t just every time something pops into our head...We need some direction.

Back to the issue of the ATCO proposal, Mr. Speaker, what actually precipitated this government’s decision to devote resources to analyzing and considering the ATCO proposal? Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro, The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Minister Responsible for NWT Power Corporation

Mr. Speaker, the fact that the issue over the cost of living has been raised right from the start of this government, that we need to do something. We need to try to find ways to stabilize the cost of living in the Northwest Territories and lower it if at all possible, the theme day here, the Association of Communities making recommendations to this Assembly and to the Minister responsible to have a look at this. This is not just a fly-by-night look at something. This issue is a real one that we have to look at. It so happens that this initiative has come forward and we want to take a serious look at what is actually being put on the table or could be brought to the table. No decisions have been made as to what will happen there. I’ve committed that I would come back after I get a response to the preliminary work, sit down with Members and discuss what it’s looking like and go from there. Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, to devote resources to the extent that we have committed to examine the unsolicited proposal from ATCO is a decision in and of itself, because it’s not the only option. Another option would have been to take a look at the Power Corporation and do some kind of an analysis of their operations to see, first of all, if there was any way we could do anything differently,

smarter, effectively, efficiently, that could have translated into lower power rates for people of the Northwest Territories. Why wasn’t that option considered? Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Minister Responsible for NWT Power Corporation

Mr. Speaker, the fact is we are. The other motion is to have a look at the review of the Power Corporation, that is ongoing. Another piece of that is the discussion paper that has gone out to the public around energy generation regulation rates. The structure has gone out for public discussion as well. There are a number of pieces we are looking at. They are not totally isolated from one another. We felt at this point, with an offer on the table, that we should at least have a look at that offer to see what it might mean for the people of the Northwest Territories and ourselves as a government. When you tie those pieces together, we will be looking at efficiency, we will look at things like, for example, a conservation rate, should that be looked at across the Northwest Territories as a way of doing it. Minister Miltenberger, in the past, has talked about dealing with the capital of the Power Corporation much like we deal with it as a GNWT. Those things will all be looked at in that process. The proposal, the initial piece, we’ll have a look at it and we’ll do a comparison as well to other providers in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, it still seems like a scattered approach to me and in the process we are doing damage in the fact that we are creating uncertainty again amongst a group of people who are starting to talk about, if this is the government’s first response to MLAs saying that we need cheaper power rates in the Northwest Territories, it’s an overreaction. We should first of all look at whether or not Power Corp operates too arms-length from the government and if there are opportunities to bring it in. Just the fact that somebody can walk up and throw a proposal on our desk and we will then devote resources to investigating that without laying other options out for all of us to consider to me has caused a problem for us now. What does the Premier say to that? Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Minister Responsible for NWT Power Corporation

Mr. Speaker, as I did a statement in this House just the other day about some of the decisions we have to make as Members of the Legislative Assembly, some of those will require some debate and making some tough decisions in the overall interest of the whole of the Northwest Territories. That’s the type of information we’re trying to get so we can sit down and look at that. Unfortunately, when we do go out through a process and make the public aware that we are doing a review or investigating an initiative or, as the Members have pointed out, a couple of the other ones that have gone out publicly, that

does cause concern in the Northwest Territories. I believe that if we’re going to do our job we have to look at the options available to us and at least investigate them to see if we’re on the right track. If it does mean cost savings to people in the North and a stabilization of our rates then that is something we should follow up on.

Now, will it mean that? Not sure. What resources do they bring to the table? Not sure. We want to see what they’re prepared to put on the table in the sense of helping us stabilize rates and the cost of living and what it means for employment and securing the energy sector in the Northwest Territories and further development of our energy sector as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, I just think we can’t afford to chase down every trail without first looking at the fact that we own the Power Corporation and perhaps there are things that could be done, not just with the Power Corporation, but through other energy conservation. It’s a complex problem.

Mr. Speaker, we keep calling the ATCO proposal the unsolicited proposal. I just want to get to the bottom of was there a meeting between any representative of this government and ATCO that transpired prior to the unsolicited proposal being presented? Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Minister Responsible for NWT Power Corporation

Mr. Speaker, the fact that when we sat down as Members of the Assembly looking at some of our initiatives and the impacts of those directions we want to go in and trying to secure areas, cost of living was a big one. That’s why we put an initiative committee behind that to try to deal with that. When it comes down to was there a meeting? I had been down to Calgary meeting with a number of groups and sat down with representatives of ATCO in their initial interest and felt that at that point we were not prepared to look at initiatives or anything but I’d be prepared to sit down with Members to see what may come forward. After we had the work in this House and the Association of Communities do motions at their assemblies to do something about the Power Corporation and look at that initiative, then the proposal showed up and we’re starting that review. Thank you.

Question 166-16(3): Consideration Of Atco Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I just want to follow up on my Member’s statement and ask the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources about the biomass initiative and the Biomass Strategy, if he can share some of the details around that. Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the intent of the Biomass Strategy is to do a number of things. One of the key areas we are interested in, of course, is lowering the cost of living in the small communities. We’re looking at heating; generation and distribution of electricity are two main areas. We are of the opinion that there is great potential and there is technology that is currently in existence. We know that the Member’s community of Jean Marie River has been very active in this area. We are very interested, should the budget be approved, to move forward to find a smaller community that could be used as a demonstration or a pilot project that would allow us to look at the type of technology that would work best in there, and to work with the community to, in fact, get it up and running. If it works then we’d be able to see how we could roll out the biomass potential all the way through the boreal forest area, which takes us almost up to Inuvik. Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The time for question period has expired; however, I will allow the Member supplementary questions. Mr. Menicoche.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I’d like to thank the Minister for that answer. As well, in terms of should we get to the feasibility or planning stages, are all the funding and resources available only in his department or are there other resources in other departments that can be accessed to move this proposal forward? Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the budget speaks about $60 million basically over four years with this year to be the start-up year. The Ministerial Energy Coordinating Committee, chaired by Minister Bob McLeod, is overseeing the projects. The money would be located in different departments as we look at moving forward. The intent, though, is to have it coordinated through the Ministerial Energy Coordinating Committee to ensure that the whole range of projects move ahead, be it hydro, mini-hydro and wind and such. Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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February 18th, 2009

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I would also ask the Minister at this time for any assistance accessing any federal dollars that can be used for this fund. I’m not too sure what specifically is in the federal budget but I’m sure that his staff can assist us in identifying the exact program that may fit this proposal. Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The one fund that we’re aware of is there’s a billion dollar Green Fund that the federal government has money for. It’s project-based. Once again, once the criteria is clear, we believe that we have a number of projects that may be eligible. We’ll have to get in line with every other province and territory across the land, but we believe we have two things: we have our share and we have projects that we think would be considered, by the federal terminology, as shovel ready. Thank you.

Question 167-16(3): Jmr Biomass Energy Initiative
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 9, written questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.