This is page numbers 3341 - 3368 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was plan.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We, as a Legislature, through the Infrastructure subcommittee, spent about a year and a half or so looking at revamping the capital planning process and we’re in the midst of working through those changes. This is our second cycle now with the early review of the capital plan to address some of the issues Mr. Hawkins talked about in regard to contracts out the door in a timely manner to get them out on the ground at the start of building season. So this will be our second go-round now that’s before this House and, yes, we’ll be monitoring how it’s working such as are there needs to make adjustments and what adjustments are those. So we’re committed to that process.

I also just want to point out that we are in a unique two-year period with the recession on, the Economic Action Plan by the federal government where they’ve compressed the Build Canada and infrastructure funding from five years or so into two. We have a huge capital plan over two years going to be almost $700 million. We’ve found that there has been, because of the recession and downturn in the construction industry, a very good uptake on projects. In the past, a few short months ago, 18 months, two years ago we couldn’t get any bidders or often very few bidders, very high costs, and now we’re finding that there’s a lot more interest. So, yes, we’re going to be tracking the changes and we’re going to be looking to make sure that they’re working and, if not, what adjustments are required. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Would the Minister say at this time with any anecdotal evidence or if he has any evidence at all to that effect that our process, if not showing individual budget dollars, has it paired out in a way that the territorial government is spending dollars more effectively? Is he getting a more effective response from industry or more of a competitive edge I guess from this process? Is he seeing that? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The suggestion to take the actual dollar amounts per project was a good idea, that it would be somewhat self-evident, it would seem, in retrospect, even though we had it for years. It would give a very clear indication to anyone bidding, what the ceiling is and how much to bid. So we believe along with all the other changes, it’s added to the efficiency and effectiveness of the capital planning process. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

As far as the competitive idea, you’re welcome. Will there be a review to that process? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I didn’t hear the question.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Fair enough, fair enough. Every Member has had an opportunity to the opening. Mr. Hawkins.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I believe the Minister said he didn’t hear the question and I’ll say again, as far as the competitive process goes, he’s certainly welcome for the idea and will he be reviewing the process to ensure that it’s working and give us some sense on how it’s helped us as a government by going through this process by removing those ceilings? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

As we finish or go through the second full cycle of the new process with all the accompanying changes, we’ll be, of course, tracking how it’s working. The issue of not having specific dollar figures by the projects is going to be one of the things that we’ll be assessing along with the sequencing and the timing to ensure that we’re being as effective and efficient as possible. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. All the Members have had an opportunity to make a general comment on the opening remarks. Are there any additional general comments on opening remarks? No. Does committee agree that we’ve concluded general comments and opening remarks?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Agreed. Does committee agree that we now move into the Department of Environment and Natural Resources?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Okay, that begins on page 11-2 if I can get Members to turn to 11-2, please. Okay, I’d like to defer this page until after consideration of the activity summary. So let’s turn to page 11-4 and get into the detail. Is committee agreed?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Okay we’re on page 11-4. Just a reminder to Members to keep their questions focused to the pages that we’re reviewing. Thank you. Any questions on page 11-4? Mr. Menicoche.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. With regard to computer-based licence information and management system, I’m just wondering, I know that the community of Trout Lake had asked…I don’t know if this is applicable to the needs of a small community like Trout Lake who wants to do their own issuance of fishing licences. So I don’t know if the needs of a small community will fit into the plan that’s presented here, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Minister Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, every attempt will be to make sure that it works effectively in the communities, as well recognizing that there are some issues about fishing licences and the need to raise the rates, which is an issue that we’re trying to pursue as well in terms of how we coordinate our efforts. We want to be able to do that so that it’s user-friendly across the North. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

So the advanced plans there, Mr. Chair, does it show how this can be implemented in the small communities? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I don’t have that level of detail on that project, but I can commit to provide it to the Member.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. We’re on page 11-4, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, corporate management, infrastructure investment summary, total infrastructure investment summary, $210,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Agreed. We’ll move along to page 11-7 and just as a note, there is an error on page 11-7. The page is incorrectly identified as an information item, but should actually be identified as activity summary. So we’re on page 11-7, Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just noting that there’s a project, purchasing of a lightning detection system and I note that we’re importing that from the United States. Right now the cost is such that with today’s Canadian dollar there’s an opportunity to purchase it at considerably less than I think the department was contemplating. So just a note to urge the department to take advantage of that opportunity if it still exists once we have this all approved and April 1st rolls around. Thank you. Just

a comment.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. As he indicated, it was just a comment. Would the Minister like to respond anyway?