This is page numbers 3523 - 3560 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

As I stated before, the basic shelter concept is one we’re looking at right now. We need to make sure that we do our due diligence on this one and just not roll it out until we’ve been able to see that it’s something that the communities really do want and something that will work in the communities, and that we won’t have to be asked to go back later and install running water and other things, which has happened in the past. So we will be doing our due diligence on this one and making sure that when we do roll it out, it’s something that’s a worthwhile product. Thank you.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I think if the Minister were to embark on this concept, it would be very worthwhile to look at in terms of people, I can speak for the Sahtu and, more specifically, Colville Lake, in terms of where there is still a lot of independence in the people in terms of their lifestyle. So this concept would work very well in that community. I’m not going to speak for other communities, but my region would certainly benefit. I want to ask the Minister if he would give his officials some leeway and flexibility in exploring with the people of Colville Lake or in the Sahtu region in terms of seeing if these types of homes can be developed in the region. Can the Minister make that commitment?

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I would make the commitment to the Member that we will have a serious look at this and we’ll make sure that it’s well thought out before we attempt to put it on the ground. We’ll seek some input from a lot of the Members, because a lot of them do represent the small communities. We’ll get as much input as we can before we attempt to roll this out. Thank you.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister also commit to working with other Cabinet colleagues in terms of how they could probably put together sort of a training package, if that makes more sense in terms of the Department of Education or Aurora College, in terms of looking

at a home like this in the Sahtu or any of the other communities in the North that makes sense?

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. McLeod.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The Housing Corporation will be willing and the Housing Corporation has been taking the lead on a lot of the training. They’ve provided packages to some of the schools where they can use that for training. So we are quite interested in making sure that we’re able to have our Northerners trained in building these units. I would commit to the Member that I’ll have discussions with my Cabinet colleagues as to some of the training monies that we’re able to access to help see this come about. Thank you.

Question 103-16(4): Colville Lake Home Construction Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for Minister McLeod, Minister Michael McLeod. I just wanted to follow up on my Member’s statement and ask the Minister of Transportation with regard to some of the contracting opportunities that can be missed when they’re out in our regions and communities. These are huge opportunities. They’re big contracts. There’s the Blackwater Bridge contract near the community of Wrigley. Residents have been advising myself, and probably the Minister’s office as well, that they’re missing opportunities. Some of it can be unfair practice, I believe. I would just like to know if some of our contracts that we let out, is there any policy or guidelines attached to that saying that they must use as much resources from proximity communities -- in this case, the community of Wrigley -- to employ their people, use their equipment? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Michael McLeod.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I’d like to thank the Member for recognizing the benefits that come from large projects, such as Blackwater, to the communities and to companies in the North. Yes, we do follow a policy. It’s the Business Incentive Policy that requires us to have certain content that is listed in the contract that has to be adhered to, and we do monitor the situations and the projects very closely. Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

So the Minister is then aware of some of the complaints from the community of Wrigley, especially in the case...Like in the joint venture contract there right now offered the community of Wrigley I think it was $200 to rent a water truck for the whole day. Mr. Speaker, that just

covers wages only. That’s very unfair to ask the community to provide almost free services for the water and, as well, they use that very same excuse, Mr. Speaker, because they use a lowball figure, they use that very same excuse to bring in their own water truck and not use the community of Wrigley’s. Our government is all about developing capacity and giving them opportunities. Like I said, in the spring contract, they purchased equipment and that’s not even being used as well, Mr. Speaker.

Once again, is the Minister aware of the lack of working with the community of Wrigley to use their equipment and employ their people? Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, I am very familiar with this project. We went far above what was required to ensure that the community was involved. We gave a lot of flexibility to the community to become a partner and negotiate a contract. Six million dollars worth of work went to the partnership. We extended time frames. We facilitated discussions with subcontractors. So I think there’s been a lot of work in this area and certainly our department has been involved every step of the way. We are well aware that there are some companies, some sub-trades are not able to negotiate good arrangements.

Mr. Speaker, we as a government cannot get involved with the discussions with every company that needs to work with a general contractor. We look at the bottom line. Right now the community has benefited close to $7 million from this project and that’s over 20 percent, Mr. Speaker. I think that the community should be very proud of their ability to take part in this project and generate revenue for their community. Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Indeed. Like I mentioned in my Member’s statement, it was quite an achievement, the work that they’d done in the springtime, but to complete the bridge, they’ve got some new contractors, Stan Dean and I believe it’s Ruskin had joint ventured. But these are the people that the community are having difficulty with. They’re giving the opportunities to meet and sit and negotiate for their equipment, but I don’t believe that the rates they’re using are fair and they’re using that excuse to get their own equipment, employ their own people and, as a result, leaving out the community of Wrigley. They did have some opportunities, but they just cannot seem to be using their equipment. They’ve used that previous contract, they developed the capacity and we’ve got to continue to support it. So I’d like to ask the Minister, Mr. Speaker, what can be done in this instance to help continue to build the capacity of the community of Wrigley? Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

As in every project with every community, there has to be a demonstrated capacity to take on some of the work. The

equipment has to be in good shape, whether it’s a CAT or a grader or a truck, and the price has to be fair and the people that are going to operate it have to be experienced enough to ensure their safety. Our department has facilitated, we’ve worked with the community at every step and we’ll continue to do so. If there is a situation here, I’m not sure what the water truck number is referring to, whether it’s a municipal water truck or if they have one of their own, I wasn’t aware of that. But we certainly can look into it. We encourage the company, we have inspections, we have discussions with the contractors to ensure that they’re involved and they involve the community and we’ll follow that up.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I guess, overall, the biggest contract here is Ruskin and it can almost be viewed like they’re an outside contractor. What I’d like to see is to ensure that there is proper follow-up, proper documentation that they use as much local content as possible. Can the Minister ensure a mechanism like that when they do their post-mortem at the completion of this project, to show how much local content that they have used on this $50 million contract? Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
Oral Questions

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

We certainly can do that. Mr. Speaker, I have to point out I don’t share the Member’s concerns. The community, the job contract from the community requested to do the site preparation and they did the contract, they had that contract, they requested to do the earth works, they got the contract, they did that work, they wanted to do the gravel pit development, they requested that, they got that, and they did it, and they wanted to provide camp services, Mr. Speaker, and they are providing camp services. I wasn’t aware there was water truck involvement in here. I only know that the Municipality of Wrigley has a water truck. If that’s what we’re talking about, then we’ll follow that up. The post-mortem is going to be done, in any event. Our indication is that this project has exceeded all local and northern requirements and it’s only going to improve as the time goes on. Thank you.

Question 104-16(4): Blackwater Bridge Contract
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Government House Leader and it gets back to my Member’s statement where I was talking about animal rights legislation in the Northwest Territories and another incident just last week where three puppies were found in the dump in Behchoko with their throats cut. We start to ask the question again, the public asks us

questions, it makes us look bad both on a national stage and on an international stage when incidents like this happen. In the Northwest Territories, the legislation just has no teeth to do much about it, as was evidenced with the 34 dogs that had to be put down in Behchoko because the Crown felt they couldn’t get a conviction against the person who did that.

So I’d like to ask the Government House Leader today, what is the current status of animal rights legislation in the Northwest Territories today and where is it going? Thank you.

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Government House Leader, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
Oral Questions

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Government House Leader

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government is taking a two-track approach to this particular issue. The amendments to the Dog Act are being worked on, there’s a legislative proposal expected in November that will be ready by a review by committee and, hopefully, introduction in the winter session. That will give some immediate relief and more authority to the people dealing with issues of animal cruelty. At the same time, Justice is at work doing the necessary preliminary work on a whole new piece of legislation for animal cruelty, keeping in mind that our legislative cycle takes, on average, about two years. So because of that gap, the amendments to the Dog Act are being proceeded with. Thank you

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

That’s interesting, considering what happened yesterday with the Petroleum Tax Act that went through the House in one day. I’d like to ask the Minister, last spring the Justice Minister had talked about a working group that was being formulated by government to take a look at animal rights legislation here in the Northwest Territories. I’d like to know exactly what that working group has accomplished in the past six months, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Government House Leader

A full briefing on both these particular pieces of legislation has been offered to committee and the folks stand ready to sit down with committee to be able to go through in detail both pieces of legislation, the amendments to the Dog Act as well as the new legislation and the work that the working committee has done. Thank you.

Question 105-16(4): Animal Protection Legislation
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

I appreciate the work that is being done on the Dog Act, but that doesn’t begin to address other domesticated animals in the Northwest Territories and cruelty or abuse that’s inflicted on those animals, Mr. Speaker. I know the Minister said the legislative process takes two years. Is there any way, any possible way that the government can see to it that animal rights legislation in the Northwest Territories gets a higher priority than us waiting two years and that won’t

even be conducted until the next government comes through the doors in two years? Thank you.