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Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
Consideration in Committee the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I understand the question correctly, I just want to reassure the Member that the process we have in terms of flowing money to communities, gas tax money or stimulus money, is done according to an agreed to formula and process and we’ve honoured that and continue to honour that. Unless the Member can give me a specific example, I’m not clear how to respond to this from a point any further than that. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Just a couple that jump out at me is the bypass road in regard to Yellowknife where there was an arrangement in place. Apparently the project went over budget so this government came along and helped them out there. The same thing with the Inuvik paving project, which again, those large municipalities receive a majority of the gas tax money based on population, but yet when it comes to communities with dust control and those types of issues, realizing that communities don’t have the capacity to make any major capital investment dealing with chipseal or dust control, we don’t seem to have the ability to assist them. But yet, where they should have the ability to pay for these expenditures by way of their municipal gas tax that they do get because of the population it seems like they still continue to get dollars through this program. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The issue of dust control in the small communities is one that is on, and continues to be on, the table of the Rural and Remote Committee and we’re looking at some options for this year. In the past, once again, it’s not clear to me and I don’t have any information at the level the Member is asking about in terms of a possible Inuvik paving overrun or the other item or project that he mentioned. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Maybe the Minister can check with his advisors. Have there been cost overruns on those two projects where the government had to come in with the dollars to ensure those projects went ahead?

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

With your indulgence, once again, I’d like to refer this question to Minister Robert C. McLeod. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. We’ll go to Minister Robert C. McLeod.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The communities have contributed money to these particular projects. The bypass road, I know the municipal government, the City of Yellowknife, contributed a significant amount of money. The one in Inuvik, it wasn’t a cost overrun. They had an application in. These were all application based. They had an application in and because of the cancellation of another project, the decision was made to make another contribution of I think it was $263,000 or $303,000, but their share of it. They’ve paid over $3 million out of their own budget for this particular project. It was application based; they met all of the criteria of the projects. As far as cost overruns, I know the Inuvik ones for sure there was not a cost overrun. I’d have to follow up on the Yellowknife one, but it would be the municipal governments put in their share of it and the rest came from the Building Canada Plan. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
Consideration in Committee the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regard to the Inuvik Paving Project, the estimate for the project was basically $2.8 million, which the federal share was $349,000. Out of that there was a shared cost between the territorial government and the municipal government of $2.45 million. So I’d like to know what is the breakdown for that particular amount in regard to the infrastructure funding that was allocated.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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May 16th, 2010

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. The federal government’s share was exactly as the Member pointed out and the balance came from the municipal government.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to comment briefly on the $135.9 million in carry-overs for infrastructure projects. I’ve given the government credit in the past for its infrastructure plan and the new way it looks at capital projects. Maybe what I’m really looking for is a comment from the government on this. Even at 34 percent, it’s still a large number that we’re looking at carrying over. It’s $136 million. I’m just wondering if we have a game plan going forward. I know we’re going to revert back to more historic numbers a couple years from now and that’s $75 million a year in capital, but what is the plan for getting this money out the door and getting these projects done? Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
Consideration in Committee the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The capital plan, all these projects are on the books. They, to one degree or another, have work underway and we’re going to continue to conclude those, carry them forward and hopefully conclude them. If they’re single year and if they’re multi-year, we’ll deal with those over the proposed life expectancy in addition to the projects we have this year. We’ll be working very hard to make sure that we don’t exceed the 34 percent overall that we carried over for two years in a row now. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

I guess, if I could, I’d like to see us, you know, we’ve got 16 months left to try to get as much of this money out there as we possibly can in the next 16 months and get it working for the people and the economy here in the Northwest Territories. Maybe if the Minister could just comment on whether or not the government believes that the majority of our capital plan, what remains in the capital plan including the carry-overs will be concluded prior to October 2011. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

With your indulgence again, I’d ask Minister Michael McLeod to speak to the broader system of capital planning through Public Works and Services.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
Consideration in Committee the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Minister Michael McLeod.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, as the Members are aware, we have changed our system in the last few years to become more efficient and have our capital plan delivery more effective. We’re certainly starting to see the results of that. We’ve had a very large capital budget for the last couple of years and it’s been, I think, still proven that we can move these forward. We have a fairly large carry-over. Percentage-wise it’s not as large as what we’ve had historically, but I can confirm to the Member that I think in excess of 90 percent of these projects are signed off, are in the system and they’re moving forward. So we should see these all dealt with in this coming year.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
Consideration in Committee the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Any more general comments? Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a quick question. I understand that the stimulus dollars cannot be carried over beyond this coming March 31st. If that’s true, I’m wondering, do we have assurance that those dollars will be completely expended this fiscal year. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It’s planned to have all that federal money expended within the time frames allocated, pointing out, once again, I think that we were probably one of the most successful jurisdictions when it came to taking full access of the opportunities that we had with the stimulus fund. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I may have missed it, but how much of the stimulus dollars have we carried over into this year?

Committee Motion 4-16(5): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 42-16(5), Supplementary Estimates No. 1, 2010-2011 (Operations Expenditures), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Mr. Minister. Mr. Kalgutkar.