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Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also will be supporting the bill as it is brought forward today. I, along with colleagues, do so with mixed emotions, with mixed feelings about this. I hope we’ve learned some very good lessons from this approach that we took to this capital project. I think that once we decided to try to bring this project to reality through a way that could be described as -- I don’t know what the word is -- through the back door, for sure. This was not through the front door. This came to us through the back door and the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation, you know, the capacity to deal with a project of this magnitude was not tested and tried. I feel sorry for the efforts that they made and were not successful in seeing this project to completion. I think there are a lot of regrets all around on this.

I hope that the redeeming reality will be that we will have a bridge -- and I said this, I’m repeating myself now, I said this earlier -- but I hope that we will have a piece of territorial infrastructure that will serve the people of the Northwest Territories for many, many years. I hope that the concerns about deficiencies or defects are just small things that can be dealt with and addressed and that will not, going forward, affect the usefulness and the serviceability of this project.

I think that as the economy is returning to a better standing and inflation will rise and interest rates will go back to higher rates and so on, I am hopeful today that we will look back on this and say that

although the process seemed flawed, that what we end up with at the end of the day is a piece of infrastructure that we can use and be proud of and that we will look back and say that it was a good and worthwhile investment. So I will be supporting the motion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. To the principle of the bill. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, will be supporting the bill, reluctantly, but I think that we have no other choice in the matter. Regardless, we would have to pay $165 million over 35 years. It is just that we are going to basically have to refinance this thing in a different manner and we will get the major piece of infrastructure completed. I think also that we do have to learn from this event and I think, if anything, in some cases, hopefully that we do get the answer back from the federal Finance Minister hopefully sooner than later so we have an answer by the time we next sit. I think it is important that we do get that commitment in writing from the federal government so that we can get some comfort that it is not going to have a direct implication on our borrowing limit.

I think also in regards to my colleagues in other regions in the Territories, we also would like to be able to look at some other infrastructure, regardless if it is the Peel River Bridge or the Liard or the Bear. I think that we have to be respective of the groups in Fort Providence who are taking on this challenge and also that doing the work that basically will set the precedent going forward. Yes, it didn’t turn out the way that we would like, but I think that they also realize that there are obstacles in doing anything new.

I think the problem that we now realize is that there is a way to build infrastructure in the Northwest Territories. If that means the cost of the operational cost of the ferry operations, the ice roads, the maintenance costs and a couple of million dollars of public investment, we can build infrastructure over a period of time, pay it out over 35 or 40 years. I think that is the approach we are going to have to consider going forward.

My colleague from the Sahtu states that we do have some major infrastructure we are considering such as the Mackenzie Highway, which is a $1.8 billion project. I think that is going to be a bigger challenge from a territorial perspective and also from the logistical challenges from that major project. I think that with the pipeline and that, we have a lot of big projects on the rise.

With that, I will be supporting the motion. Again, with reluctance but, more importantly, with some comfort from the federal Finance Minister and something in writing that states that we will be able to avoid having this on our books by way of our borrowing limit. Thank you.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. To the principle of the bill.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Second Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Question has been called.

---Carried

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 4-16(5), Executive Summary of the Report of the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project, with Mr. Krutko in the Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

At this time I will call for a short break before we proceed in Committee of the Whole.

---SHORT RECESS

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I would like to call Committee of the Whole back to order for consideration of Tabled Document 4-16(5). What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that we report progress.

---Carried

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Can I have the report of Committee of the Whole, please, Mr. Krutko.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, your committee would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. A motion is on the floor. Do we have a seconder? The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

---Carried

Third reading of bills. The honourable Premier, Mr. Roland.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Third Reading of Bills

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Deh Cho, that Bill 6, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011, be read for the third time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The motion is on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Third Reading of Bills

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Question is being called.

---Carried

Mr. Clerk, would you ascertain whether the Commissioner, Anthony W.J. Whitford, is prepared to enter the Chamber to assent to bills.

Assent To Bills
Third Reading of Bills

Tony Whitford Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Monsieur le president, monsieur le premier ministre, messieurs et Mesdames les deputes, friends… It’s short.

---Laughter

I wasn’t expecting to do this again, but it is indeed an unexpected pleasure to be back in your company this afternoon.

As Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, I am pleased to assent to the following bill:

• Bill 6, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011

Thank you, merci, quanami, mahsi cho.

Assent To Bills
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Orders of the day for Tuesday, May 11, 2010, at 1:30 p.m.:

1. Prayer

2. Ministers’

Statements

3. Members’

Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

6. Acknowledgements

7. Oral

Questions

8. Written

Questions

9. Returns to Written Questions

10. Replies to Opening Address

11. Petitions

12. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

13. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

14. Tabling of Documents

15. Notices of Motion

16. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

17. Motions

18. First Reading of Bills

19. Second Reading of Bills

20. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of

Bills and Other Matters

- Tabled Document 4-16(5), Executive Summary of the Report of the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project

21. Report of Committee of the Whole

22. Third Reading of Bills

23. Orders of the Day

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 11, 2010, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 3:59 p.m.