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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

An Hon. Member

Detail.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Detail, thank you. I’ll refer your attention, please, to page 5-2 in your capital estimates book, Public Works and Services, department summary, infrastructure investment summary, total infrastructure investment summary, $11.241 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Oh, you want the summary? Okay. Sorry. Summary would be deferred. Now I direct your attention away from the summary page and go to page 5-4. Is that the page that we’re going to, page 5-4?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay. Public Works and Services, activity summary, asset management, infrastructure investment summary, total infrastructure investment summary, $5.976 million. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. There are a few points I’d like to bring out here. First of all, the deferred maintenance is an important issue. We know that we have quite a backlog. We have made some progress and I appreciate that, and there’s still much more to go and the department is continuing to work on that. That’s good work.

I want to highlight the schools in Yellowknife. Particularly Sissons is one that keeps getting docked and put on the backburner, yet there’s obviously a very high need in that area. I’d appreciate knowing what the plan is for when that will finally be addressed. That’s been highlighted for many years now.

Also, on the order of the general purpose office buildings – 6,000 square metres – and other government infrastructure of this ilk that we’re contemplating, I’m wondering what the opportunity is for getting a policy in place where 1 percent of those facilities can become available to the arts communities in each community that we develop this infrastructure in. I’d like to specifically request that that be done for this particular general purpose office building in downtown Yellowknife.

I have had the opportunity to talk to Heritage Canada and somewhat to the arts community here. There’s a lot of enthusiasm and potential for project sharing and costs. I know and I’ve brought this to

the attention of Cabinet and perhaps there’s some progress happening there, but it’s a real opportunity and we need to start supporting these groups in realizing the benefits, especially to the local economies that they can bring. This is that 6,000 square metre office building. One percent of it would be obviously 60 square metres. That’s a little over 600 square feet. Not a huge amount but it could be very important space for the sorts of demonstration and advertising and administration, really, of the arts community in the capital.

I think I’ll actually save the rest for other divisions. I’ll leave it at that.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Madam Chair. The Yellowknife schools, it’s my understanding, are funded differently. I’ll get Mr. Guy to elaborate a little bit more on that, but when it comes to deferred maintenance they are funded differently than other projects.

The office building, when we talk about arts, the new building that’s going up is not really suitable for arts but there are other private sector spaces that are more suitable and available in that respect and would also cut huge savings over the long run. I’ll get Mr. Guy to elaborate a bit more since he’s been involved with more detailed discussion.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, the Deferred Maintenance Program funding is intended to be applied to buildings that are owned by the Government of the Northwest Territories and maintained by the Department of Public Works and Services. The schools in Yellowknife are not within the scope of the Department of Public Works and Services. Those facilities are funded for and maintained by the boards themselves. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just again, in reverse order, where is then the maintenance work being planned? How is it being planned? What are we doing to ensure that the work is being done, for example in Sissons School in Yellowknife?

On the general purpose office building, of course, I disagree with the Minister. I think it’s entirely possible that the space be made available for arts without any impact on the private sector here. They don’t currently have it and there is an opportunity for paying for that, in fact, in working cooperatively with the federal government.

I would just like to note that the building design for this project is not due until April of 2013. That’s 15

months from now so there’s plenty of time to design this into the facility. All it requires is the political will to do this, and at 1 percent use of space, obviously, I don’t think it’s a huge burden to bear, especially in the capital city. I would appreciate some more details from the Minister on that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Madam Chair. This particular area, of course, will be part of the policy that we need to work within the ECE department as the Minister responsible. These are discussions that we can certainly have between the two parties.

Public Works and Services is not really responsible in that area. The decision has to be brought forward to the Executive department to decide on the next step if the arts should be part of this new building. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. Just on that then, I did have another question that I would appreciate a response on. But on this one, which department should I be talking to on this one? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

My understanding is that the space area needs to be in consultation with the ECE department, so those are discussions that can generally happen. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks for the Minister’s response on that. I will follow up on that.

The other question I had was if the deferred maintenance is not responsible for the schools, I’m wondering if there’s any GNWT role in getting that deferred maintenance done. We seem to, obviously, be doing it for a lot of schools elsewhere. How are we and when are we going to make sure it gets done by whomever is responsible? For example, Sissons School in Yellowknife. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Department of Public Works and Services also provides technical services and technical support to the boards through the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. So if there’s a request to have a technical assessment done on one of those facilities, we would undertake that on behalf of the Department of Education.

Any maintenance-related issues that the boards have or technical support related, if they have a problem with their building systems or boilers or building envelope, they have access to the staff and technical services of the Department of Public Works and Services to provide them with some sort of technical support in those areas where they’re challenged. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you for that information. Can I just confirm that there has been no request for any maintenance or upgrades to the Sissons School in Yellowknife? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

My understanding is that there is a plan identified in the 20-year needs of the Department of Education to do some upgrades to that school, but I’m not aware of any direct requests for maintenance-related funding at this time. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

It’s certainly been brought up for many years by MLAs. I’ll leave it at that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Moving on and just to let Members know who I have on the list under this activity, I have Mr. Yakeleya, Mr. Hawkins, Ms. Bisaro and Mr. Bouchard. Mr. Yakeleya.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to ask the Minister under the department if he could provide to me a briefing. It could be in a document, or I know I heard Mr. Guy talk about it earlier, on the situation in Colville Lake with their honey bucket matter there at the school and also at the health centre. I know the kids, 53 of them have to wait another year to use a facility that has running water in there. I’m really disappointed that it will take another year for this department to put in a proper facility in the school, and also they can look at that at the health centre too.

There is a sewer truck in Colville Lake and there are people in there that use the water situation. It’s not as good as the sewer. I guess I’m just disappointed that it’s taken this long to put a proper running facility in the community. Can he provide me with a briefing that, hopefully, I can go to Colville Lake to explain why it’s going to take another year to put a washroom in the school and in the… Not even talking about the health centre. I don’t even know where the health centre is with that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Madam Chair. This particular area has a high importance for our department as well, both the ECE department and also Public Works and Services, but we have to work with the community. The sewage lagoon is still being worked on. It hasn’t been completed by the community and it’s kind of out of our control, but we continue to establish or install a sewage tank. That will be happening this winter. Once the sewage lagoon is completed and in order, then it will all be connected. We are ready, as Public Works and Services, to go into the community and establish the functioning sewage tank and other areas as well. Mahsi.