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Question 174-16(6): Government Investment In Youth Programming
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Beaulieu.

Question 174-16(6): Government Investment In Youth Programming
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see that the government has supported community-built infrastructure and supported communities for some programming money. The one piece of the puzzle that is actually missing is our actual youth workers at the community level. I think they have recreation workers. The money is flowing to the communities. In trying to make the government understand, I think that’s probably the most essential. Providing qualified youth workers working at the community level I think will gain the greatest results for the success of the youth. I’d like to ask the Minister again if that is something that his department could

look at to see the benefits of having actual qualified youth workers at the community level.

Question 174-16(6): Government Investment In Youth Programming
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

I can assure the Member that is something that we can have a look at. Whether we’re able to do it financially is another question, and decisions such as that would have to be something that the 17

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would have to take into consideration. We could also make our thoughts and recommendations to them in the form of transition documents. I can assure the Member that we will have a look at it.

Question 174-16(6): Government Investment In Youth Programming
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The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

August 22nd, 2011

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I talked in my Member’s statement about the Financial Administration Act and I took a look at the opportunity before us that is potentially to be reviewed. Right now we’re in the coming days that will enter into the new government. I highlighted the importance of value for money audits, which are also referred to as performance audits. If the review of the FAA is actually being considered at this time, it would be probably wise for the government to consider a comprehensive opportunity like this to include performance audits on our corporations to ensure that they’re done on a regular basis to ensure that we’re getting the best value for these corporations.

My question will be directed to the Premier today and my question specifically will be: if the FAA is being updated at this particular time with an eye to the future, would the Premier be willing to put down as part of the development opportunity of the FAA, to put in performance audits as a fundamental element on our corporations to be done, say, every five years, as it is done federally?

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Premier, Mr. Roland.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On top of the process that we have in place where our corporations table their annual reports and business plans in this Assembly, that’s one method where Members have access and can measure how our corporations have done business. As for the ongoing work around the Financial Administration Act, I will have to speak to the Minister on that work and see what’s been incorporated and the timelines for that.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate the Premier’s answer about the corporations tabling their annual reports, but, quite frankly, most Members I would be surprised have an auditing or accounting

background. Therefore we read them for what they are, to ensure that the ledger sheets are balanced.

Performance audits, as cited by the Auditor General of Canada, really look at assets, safeguards, controls, human, physical, and financial resource management, and ensure that operations are carried out efficiently. That’s not addressed in the table of the annual reports. That’s really what I’m getting down to. That type of work needs to be done on a regular basis, as cited by the Auditor General of Canada that she does do. I should say the former Auditor General of Canada. Can the Premier cite any occasion that he’s aware of where the Business Development Corporation, the NWT Power Corporation, or the Business Development Corporation have had performance audits of this nature that I have been referring to?

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland Premier

One of the things we’ve done in the life of this government is looking at how departments have been performing with budgets, and look at the growing demand for more resources, and have an internal look at it that way as we do the work around refocusing our government. The additional work of these types of audits has been done in the past on a number of our corporations. That is as the Auditor General of Canada’s office makes that request, we co-operate and they do that review. The other way is Members of this Assembly can call on that and we wait for a response from the Auditor General. That is one of the methods that we do use, and a number of our corporations have been called into this review process.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate the answer from the Premier. As the former Auditor General has clearly stated, they do not have the mandate to perform these performance audits on territorial corporations unless, of course, the House passes a direct motion that issues that request. At the same time, the former Auditor General has put into writing that they would be more than willing to do those types of audits if granted the authority to do that. In essence, if the FAA is up for debate and review, this would be a good opportunity to invoke that offer. As well, all Members know that there is little or no cost to the territorial government if the Auditor General of Canada actually does them. That’s the question I’m really asking the Premier, is would he encourage the Minister of Finance to look at this particular issue, seize the opportunity before us, whereas we can have the Auditor General ensure our corporations are running as efficiently as possible by doing regular performance audits.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland Premier

That’s one of the wonderful things about our consensus style of government: Members are fully aware of the work that’s going on. The Minister updates the committee and he would be able to inform them as to what level of work is going on, and the future Assembly

could also make recommendations as this work will have to continue on into the 17

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Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
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The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I gave the Premier credit for the first three answers but certainly not the last one, because I’m still working and I think this Assembly should still be working on these particular issues. That’s why I’m thinking it’s quite important, if not critical, that we continue to work on these issues going forward, because we still have a mandate. Although technically it may end shortly, it’s still active. That’s why I’m asking for this.

Would the Premier inquire with the Finance Minister at the appropriate time to see if they could incorporate this opportunity again while the FAA is being reviewed? There is no better time to take these types of issues for consideration. We will let it be weighed, measured, and treated accordingly, if it’s seen to fit the business of the government going forward.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland Premier

As I tried to respond to the Member earlier about the fact that the Minister brings that work, the review to committee for their input as to how that work is going, and their response and advice to our Ministers helps us guide in that work.

As we’re having this discussion here in this Assembly, I’m sure he will be able to pick up on it. I will speak to him on the work that is ongoing. Clearly, that work will not be completed in the life of this government and that’s why I say as that work continues and the 17

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final discussions and give final direction as to the depth of that work that’s ongoing within the Financial Administration Act work.

Question 175-16(6): Mandatory Audit Requirements For Crown Corporations
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The time for question period has expired. Before going to the next item on the orders of the day, I’d like to acknowledge the presence of Chief Clifford Daniels, who has joined us in the House.

Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.