This is page numbers 263 - 290 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Topics

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. We’re just going to back up a little bit. The Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures Report on the Use of Tablet Computers in the Legislative Assembly was already read into the record in the House today. I would like to ask if there are any general comments with respect to the committee report. Okay, thank you. I’ll have the motion re-read now, then, please. We’ve established that no one wants to make any comments on the committee report, so we will have the motion re-read. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that this committee recommends that tablet computers or other similar electronic devices be considered as type of laptop computer/handheld device, subject to the existing conventions in the House regarding electronic communications devices. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. To the motion.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Question is being called.

---Carried

Does committee agree that concludes our consideration of Committee Report 1-17(2)?

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. The next item on our agenda today is Tabled Document 1-17(2), Interim Appropriation 2012-2013. Would the Minister of Finance like to provide some opening comments? Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Madam Chair. The interim appropriation requests authority for appropriation of $404.121 million for operations expenditures in the 2012-13 fiscal year.

This interim budget provides the necessary resources for the government to operate in the first three months of the 2012-2013 fiscal year. As discussed with committees previously, the 2012-2013 Main Estimates, or full budget, will be presented during the May/June sitting of the Legislative Assembly.

I will explain the methodology of the interim appropriation development and clarify that the interim provides for only a portion of the full year requirements in operations.

As directed, departments were required to develop their 2012-2013 interim appropriation requirements using the following parameters:

Funding is to be included only for the six pay

periods that fall within the time frame of the interim appropriation;

Contribution funding is only to be included for

those recipients that require the funding within the time frame of the interim appropriation;

Other expenses should only include the

minimum requirement during the interim time frame. However, where it is absolutely necessary to enter into contracts for the full year, the full year requirements have been included.

The $404.121 million in operations expenditures represents 30 percent of the total expenditures included in the 2011-2012 Main Estimates. This exceeds one-quarter of the 2011-2012 Main Estimates budget due to funding requests to cover expenditures that require sufficient funding at the beginning of the fiscal year. Committee members will also note that a number of departments are requesting funding that exceeds the average 30 percent. This is due to the operational requirements, the need to put in place contracts for specific work at the beginning of a fiscal year and for funding for items approved in 2011-12 Supplementary Appropriations No. 1 and No. 2. These departments include:

1. The Department of Executive offices requests

an appropriation of $5.6 million or 37 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates amount. One point seven million dollars of the $5.12 million approved in the supplementary appropriation process for devolution activities is being requested for the interim period.

2. The Department of Human Resources requests

an appropriation of $13.1 million or 31 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates amount. Human Resources provides funding up front for various activities associated with collective bargaining, PeopleSoft upgrades and other various programs and training in the first quarter of each fiscal year.

3. The Department of Finance requests an

appropriation of $29.4 million or 29 percent of the previous year’s main estimates. The department requires the full $2.3 million for insurance premiums which are paid in April.

4. The Department of Municipal and Community

Affairs requests an appropriation of $31.7 million or 34 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates appropriation. The department requirement includes upfront contribution funding to communities of $14.6 million, grants in lieu of taxes of $4.2 million, $1.5 million for youth centres and corps and $825,000 for community recreation funding.

5. The Department of Education, Culture and

Employment requests an appropriation of $89.9 million or 31 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates appropriation. The department requires 38 percent of the contribution to education authorities in the interim period and has a number of contracts in place for homeless shelters and other community offices.

6. The Department of Health and Social Services

requires an appropriation of $103 million or 30 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates. The increased requirement is a result of the need to provide 33 percent of contribution funding to health and social services authorities in the interim period.

7. The Department of Environment and Natural

Resources requests an appropriation of $33 million or 49 percent of the 2011-12 Main Estimates appropriation. At the beginning of the fiscal year, in anticipation that the fire season will start in early summer, the department puts in place contracts for fire suppression estimated at $14 million.

I would like to point out that this does not include any new funding that has not been approved by the 17th Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Madam

Chair.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. I’d like to ask the Minister if he would like to bring witnesses into the House.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. I’ll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses to the witness table.

Thank you. I’d like to ask Minister Miltenberger to introduce his witnesses for the record, please.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have with me at the witness table Mike Aumond, deputy minister of Finance and Mr. Olin Lovely, the director of Management Board Secretariat.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. I’ll now open the floor for general comments on the interim appropriation. General comments. Any general comments? If not, we’ll move on to the detail. Interim Appropriation 2012-2013. I will first go to the Department of Health and Social Services, which is item number 8 on your schedule. Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, appropriation authorization required, $103.023 million.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. We’ll go to item 10, which is the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, appropriation authority required, $89.897 million.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Transportation, which is item 11, Department of Transportation, appropriation authority required, $29.848 million. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I was just speaking earlier in the House about the efforts of Highway No. 7 and part of this interim appropriation. I’d like to know what’s being appropriated for the maintenance of Highway No. 7

for this coming fiscal year. Like I indicated is the concern, is that we cannot wait until our full budget in May/June because it’s typical that April or May is when our highway collapses. I’d like to know what’s being appropriated from our O and M budget for the efforts of Highway No. 7 and the safety of our travelling public in the Nahendeh riding.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. The budget before us has money for highway maintenance. It’s not broken out. I don’t have the specific information for the Highway No. 7 maintenance costs. The capital budget has already been passed and we had a discussion today about the plan of the government as we deal with our borrowing limit to enable us to make key strategic infrastructure investments in the coming months.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I made the case that there is no money, I already know that. What I’m asking is in O and M budget we have to take some planning for this coming spring thaw and potential collapse of Highway No. 7 for the travelling public. I was trying to get at what’s being allocated within the Transportation budget and what exactly is the plan in the interim on this interim budget.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

There is, if I look at the list before me, a highway and airport maintenance in Fort Liard, $903,000; there’s highway maintenance in Fort Simpson, $1.4 million; winter road construction and maintenance, Zone 6, Wrigley area, $590,000. These specifically speak to the Member’s constituency.

Committee Motion 1-17(2): Use Of Tablet Computers, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I think these speak to the existing contracts that are there that need to carry out for the next three or four months, I believe. I’m not satisfied unless I get the answer to exactly what’s going to be done about Highway No. 7 and the spring thaw this coming spring.