This is page numbers 1515 - 1542 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

I’d like to ask the Minister how many detox beds does this territory have to help clients that are in need; the number of beds for our 45,000 population here in the territory. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

One bed in each facility comes to mind, but I don’t have that information with me. Thank you.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

That sounds like two detox beds for a situation that we have that’s very disastrous in the Northwest Territories under mental health and addictions, specifically alcohol abuse. In the statement, the Minister goes on and talks about a territorial treatment centre, followed by saying that we support communities and NGOs to provide community-based programs, and then he says, and send people to southern Canada to attend treatment programs. What’s wrong with the one we have here in the North? In fact, Mr. Speaker, I believe that our Territorial Treatment Centre is only about 50 percent accommodated at best. I want to ask the Minister why we send clients south when we have a Territorial Treatment Centre that’s not always fully occupied. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Sometimes there’s a specialized treatment that’s not available at Nats'ejee K'eh. However, in order for an individual to get a southern placement, they have to go through a process. That’s a process that’s usually initiated at the community level and then goes through some form of either a regional health and social services authority or through the department. Although I don’t know the details on how people end up in southern treatment, I do know that it is a process and usually the placement is first. If somebody wants to go to residential treatment, the placement would be first at Nats'ejee K'eh. If they can’t provide what’s necessary for that individual to stop drinking or stop using drugs, they would then be placed in the South. Thank you.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Short, final supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister goes on and says it’s a simple question with complicated answers. I can find some simple answers here. We need a detox centre and beds. We need a culturally appropriate treatment centre, mental health workers, and we need to decrease the days needed for people to be sober to gain access to these treatment centres. We also need early childhood programs.

I’d like to ask the Minister, in his discussions in the region, what’s the cost for the Minister and his staff to hold these discussions in the region, because our service providers that are struggling would really like to know what that cost is going to be. Thank you.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

I’m assuming that the Member is asking about the cost of me and my staff.

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Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

The forum? It costs $300,000. That’s our budget and we will be getting the money from the federal government to cover the cost. Thank you.

Question 291-17(3): Detoxification Facilities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister of ITI a question. Yesterday he talked about oil and gas exploration in the Sahtu that potentially could happen in the Good Hope, Tulita and Norman Wells area. What is his department doing with regard to dealing with the potential impact of the recent interest of the exploration in that area?

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ITI is leading the Government of the Northwest Territories in the preparation of current and future oil and gas development in the Sahtu. We’re working with other departments on advancing on a government-wide approach. We’ve done that.

We’ve also helped coordinate the preparedness session that both the Member and I attended in Norman Wells in September. We certainly are looking forward to working with other stakeholders in the Sahtu to advance the interest of the communities there and the opportunities that are going to come. Thank you.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

The Minister and I did attend the exploration readiness session. One of the issues that the communities talked about was the past Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Development Fund of $500 million that the federal government was holding to deal with the impacts.

I want to ask the Minister, is there any way that he’s working with the Sahtu leadership to ask the federal government if they would release the Sahtu portion to deal with the interest of the oil and gas exploration that could and is happening in the Sahtu region regarding some of the issues we are talking about today.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

That $500 million socio-economic money was tied to the Mackenzie Gas Project. When we were in Norman Wells in September, there was some discussion about asking the federal government that what-ifs with what’s going on in the Sahtu. Could the federal government look at supplying some socio-economic

money to the Sahtu given what’s happening there? That is a good question, Mr. Speaker. My belief is that things will continue to progress in the Sahtu. That money was tied to a pipeline and I still believe firmly that both Mackenzie gas in the Beaufort-Delta and gas that’s going to be produced from the shale oilfield west of Norman Wells and Tulita will reach market via a new pipeline. I do believe that will happen

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Can the Minister make a good case argument to the federal government that this $500 million can be tied to the development, and possibly look at the Sahtu as being zoned or designated as a special economic area that the federal government can release this $500 million?

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

I believe that things are going to continue to progress. Those types of discussions will undoubtedly take place with the federal government. We are still relatively in the early days of the development in the Sahtu with the shale oil and the large volumes of gas that would come out of that as well. I do believe it’s good to start talking about these things. It’s good to get out in front of them, but certainly as the resource is proven up, if it’s going to get into commercialization, those are discussions that need to happen. They need to happen with the federal government and our government and the folks in the Sahtu. Thank you.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

The increase of the development of the Sahtu, you know we’re early in the development. We are spending just over $630 million in exploration. Of course, there are a lot of social impacts that are going to happen with that money and the development we are talking about today. We need that money.

I want to ask the minister if he can work with his colleagues to make a strong argument to the federal government so that they can release some of the dollars, all of these dollars to the Northwest Territories to help us with the social impacts of oil and gas development. We need that. Can I ask the Minister to give me a commitment to go to Ottawa and make a strong argument with the Sahtu leadership or Cabinet saying, release that $500 million, Mr. Harper?

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

ITI will continue to work with other departments in government to ensure that the social impacts of development in the Sahtu are addressed. We’ve done that. We’ve been leading the discussions with other departments. Undoubtedly, it is going to have an impact on other areas of our government’s operations, so it’s important that we stay on the same page, that we’re communicating with other departments on what’s happening there. We’ve done that this past year

with what’s happening there this winter. Those discussions will continue to take place.

As I mentioned earlier, the $500 million was attached to the beginning of the construction of the Mackenzie Gas Project, tied to a pipeline. I do think eventually we will see a pipeline built in the Mackenzie Valley. Whether or not we can start those types of discussions with the federal government on advancing those types of socio-economic dollars, we have to really get in and prove up the resource that’s in the Sahtu. Every day that goes by, we have a more compelling story to tell the federal government. I think time will tell and it’s going to be a good story that’s going to be written in the Sahtu. Thank you.

Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Colleagues, I’m going to call a 15-minute recess.

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Question 292-17(3): Sahtu Socio-Economic Funding
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Mr. Dolynny.

Question 293-17(3): Solar Power Generation And Net Metering
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve heard in this House and we’ve heard from the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, there’s a lot of green initiatives out there, a lot of energy initiatives, but most importantly, solar. We keep hearing about solar and getting people to think about adding solar panels to their houses and really take that step forward in the 21st Century to

be energy smart.

My question will be for the ENR Minister in terms of solar panels pertaining to net metering. Can the Minister explain to the House what is meant by the term net metering? Thank you.

Question 293-17(3): Solar Power Generation And Net Metering
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 293-17(3): Solar Power Generation And Net Metering
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What is in place in the Northwest Territories, we initially looked at net metering and we are going to review this. We ended up with what’s called net billing. The basic intent of both those initiatives is to recognize that as people put in their own sources of power supply, the ability to put power back into the grid and get some compensation for creating that extra energy and flowing it back into the grid. Thank you.

Question 293-17(3): Solar Power Generation And Net Metering
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Again, this is a great initiative. I think what we’re going to need to find out in the House here is, what exactly is this so-called incentive of putting power back into the so-called grid with a net metre? Can the Minister indicate how much money, if I was to make this large investment, $30,000 to put solar panels onto my house and I want to put power back into the grid,

how much money am I going to get per kilowatt hour by putting that in? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.