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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just going back a little bit, this corporate human resource section is the section that has that health recruitment unit that we were talking about previously. The GNWT Green Team currently has representatives from 12 of 14 departments, including the Housing Corporation sitting on our committee. There is also one outside agency, the Arctic Energy Alliance, who has committed a member to participate on the committee. The committee has initiated conversations and relationships with the federal government Green Team and is participating in their meetings as well.

Our Green Team holds quarterly meetings and will be engaging guest speakers and other participants from other jurisdictions and communities interested in helping us educate and foster new ideas how the GNWT can contribute to becoming a greener workplace.

Some of the initiatives that are taking place or have taken place include reducing the use of paper through the use of iPads and double-sided printing, purchasing recycled papers, organizing healthy lifestyle activities for staff including taking the stairs, in-office recycling stations and composting, and a GNWT Event Catering Contract Policy. As that committee moves forward, I am happy to share other future recommendations with the Member. I don’t know what those might be but I’m happy to share them with committee. We think this is an important initiative within the Government of the Northwest Territories and we will continue to support it.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

So there is a government team or committee, in this case. Are there departmental committees, departmental teams as well? My understanding was that that was the intent and that was not happening. But maybe the Minister could, again, clarify that for me.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

As I indicated, we’ve got a representative from 12 of the 14 departments. I know some departments do have stand-alone committees. I don’t have that number in front of me right now. I am happy to get that number pulled together and I will share it with the Member and committee once I have it.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I appreciate the Member’s comments again. I appreciate his understanding of this issue and support as an important issue. I guess I haven’t quite seen the use of two-sided paper yet from departments. I see it pretty good in the Legislative Assembly, though not necessary amongst Ministers’ statements this morning, but I think we are on track in the Legislative Assembly at 50 percent or greater reductions and certainly the electronics are happening, but I’m still not getting the feeling that it’s happening routinely within departments, unless maybe it’s going over at the Ledge. Occasionally there’s more scrutiny. That might be a good one for the Minister to look at. That was just a comment.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I’m guilty of that myself once in awhile. It’s noted and we will make sure that it’s brought up to the committee to make sure we continue to push that initiative.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Next I have Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have a couple of questions here. I’d like to at the outset, though, to say that I was very pleased to see that three negotiations which were entered into in the last several months were settled in short order and that basically everybody on both sides is happy. Kudos to the department for that.

A couple of questions with regard to, well, I’ll start with the UNW agreement and the statement that there will be interim whistle-blower phrasing, I guess, for lack of a better way of putting it. I’d like to know from the Minister or from the department when they expect that this sort of interim whistle-blower protection will be in place, and secondary to that, the intent, I think, is to develop legislation as well. Does the Minister have any idea when an LP might be before committee?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mr. Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Once the UNW Collective Agreement is ratified officially by both sides, we will have a six-month time period to complete the interim whistle-blower protection. It isn’t going to be legislation. It’s going to be interim protection that we’re going to work in partnership with the union and other stakeholders to put in place. That’s going to be our first priority, to get that in place. Once that’s in place we will proceed with the LP for whistle-blower legislation. As I’ve committed to before, we hope

and want and expect that we will have whistle-blower legislation introduced in this House and passed in this House before the end of this Assembly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I’d love to pin the Minister down to a specific time and date, but I appreciate the answer. Thank you very much. I look forward to the interim document in six months’ time. I think that’s going to be something which is needed and I think it will be much appreciated by our employees.

The other couple of questions I wanted to ask are around persons with disabilities and duty to accommodate and so on. The department has recently done a survey of persons with disabilities. I haven’t seen anything that indicates that that survey is done or that there have been any results from that survey. I wonder if I can get an update on where things are at with that. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Yes, the Member is correct; we have done the survey. We’ve gone out and collected a bunch of data. I do have to say that we had a technical difficulty with the computer system that people could enter their information to and it put a bit of a delay in, two or three weeks, but it has closed. We’ve got the data and the analysis and a report is expected towards early June. Hopefully, we will see something during this sitting.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

That’s good to hear and I look forward to seeing those results as do many people, I think.

We’ve had, over the last year or two, some changes within the department in and around the issue of duty to accommodate. I believe we have a duty to accommodate an officer now, and I think we also have a policy. It’s been in place, I think – the Minister can advise me – but I think about a year. I’d like to know whether or not there’s been any evaluation of the position and/or the policy and the affect that it’s having on our employees. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

The Duty to Accommodate Policy has been in effect since August 2011. From there, we developed a bunch of policies and protocols that went in place. Those went in place closer to December 2011. There is a position – the Member is correct – that’s responsible for assisting the departments in their obligation and their duty to accommodate. We haven’t done an analysis of the effectiveness of that position. It’s still early days and we’re still trying to smooth out all the ripples and find ways to make sure that the departments understand the policy and that we’re able to provide them advice that they act upon, so it’s still in progress.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Just to follow up, I can appreciate that it’s been a relatively short period of time since you’ve, sort of, started to implement the policy, but can the Minister tell me when they will do an

evaluation and whether or not Members can get the results of that evaluation?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Chair, there are a significant number of accommodation cases in the Government of the Northwest Territories. We have our officers and staff working with the different departments to accommodate those individuals. As with any accommodation, it takes work on behalf of the employee being accommodated, the department that is doing the accommodation and HR providing the advice with respect to the policies and procedures.

Our first priority is to get some of this backlog down and to get as many people accommodated as possible, understanding that it does take all three parties to find a reasonable solution. Every party has to be flexible in the accommodations.

As far as a program to evaluate, we are continuously pulling together data with respect to each of the accommodation’s duration, how long it takes, situation, but there are no immediate plans to do a comprehensive evaluation of this section in the next year or two. Nothing at this point, but we are continuously gathering data as we move forward.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I guess I would encourage the Minister and the department to seriously consider a formal evaluation after about a year. That will be the end of this particular calendar year, from the sounds of things.

I appreciate that you are collecting data all of the time, but collection of data is not necessarily doing an evaluation of how well you are succeeding with the policy. Just to comment, Mr. Chair, but I would encourage the department to not wait two years to find out whether or not we are doing the right thing.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. I think that was more of a comment. Would you like to respond, Mr. Abernethy?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Duly noted. With respect to data, we need the data to do the evaluation, so it is important that we continue to pull the data.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

I have the honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chair, I want to ask the Minister on the Aboriginal cultural awareness training within his department. I know they are drafting a framework that will set up the GNWT’s desire to increase the Aboriginal cultural awareness and appreciate this in the workforce. Are you going to have it ready by this fall and where are you going to do the first pilot of this cultural training with our workforce?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

May 27th, 2012

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Abernethy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Chair, that is the intent for this fall. Location is yet to be determined.

Training will likely take place in Yellowknife for Yellowknife employees, but it is also going to be available on line. It will be digital as well.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I look forward to it. I hope they have some digital. We can go on the land and experience that. I’m not too sure. I guess that they’ll adjust to it, so I felt all the time that we have a population in my region very strong Aboriginal. I felt that senior government people need to be immersed into our culture. I feel sometimes that we missed the boat and I found that, with this government here, with the Minister, we may be bridging some understanding amongst ourselves. I do want to say good luck. I do want to know where you’re going to pilot. I wouldn’t mind a time where we could find some time to talk about this Cultural Awareness Training Program. It has been long overdue. Those are just my comments, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

This is an important program. I share the Member’s opinion and thoughts. It’s going to be an e-training curriculum. It’s going to be on line. That way the greatest number of GNWT employees and respective GNWT employees can access and start gaining the awareness that they need of the different cultures and realities in the Northwest Territories.

I understand the Member’s point, as well, about getting out with members of the communities, getting into communities, and I as a Minister have committed to getting to those communities and bringing some of my staff with me on a regular basis. I know the other Ministers are doing that as well. So it is a starting point and we need to continue to work together.

I will happily come to committee to talk about this program once we have an RFP and we move a little bit further down the line and we start doing a little bit of analysis on the effectiveness. The input is appreciated and sought.