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Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Just briefly, I know the Minister has been looking at building standards and other legislation that might cover it, but can I just get an update on where the Minister is at with that? I know last time we chatted he was going to look at the new federal legislation that we subscribed to, or ascribed to. I forget what it was called, the building codes, the National Building Codes anyway, which had an energy element in it, an energy standard and we were going to subscribe to that. Could I get an update on that? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister McLeod.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’ll just touch briefly on that and then I’ll ask the deputy to speak to some of the meetings that they’ve had with some of the interested stakeholders, but I did commit to following up because there was some changes being made to the National Building Code. Actually, to be quite honest with Mr. Bromley, I haven’t followed up on that yet. I meant to go back into the site and see what some of the changes were, but I know our department has been working with some of the stakeholders in getting some of their input. So I’ll ask Mr. Williams to touch on that and I will commit to getting on the website tomorrow and having a look at some of the changes because they were contemplating some changes and I think it was during our deliberations last year when the consultations were going on. So I’ll check that tomorrow and I will get Deputy Minister Williams to touch on the discussions they’ve been having with stakeholders. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Deputy Minister Williams.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Williams

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In early 2013 MACA consulted with industry stakeholders concerning the need for building standards legislation in the NWT. The stakeholders indicated additional time was needed for the study on the topic and to provide meaningful input. So, no further feedback has been received since then.

Some of the stakeholders that we did speak to, we spoke to the NWT Construction Association, the NWT Architects Association and the NWT Association of Communities as well as the Consulting Engineers of the NWT. So those consultations took place, I guess over a year ago now and I guess the next steps are we want to re-engage with them and see if there are any changes. The GNWT did examine this topic in 2008 and determined the current environment at the time offered sufficient protection to help ensure safety of residents. I guess one of the things that we need to move this forward is sufficient evidence needs to exist to justify the expense and effort required to

administer a territorial-wide building standards regime.

So, to sum it up, we have done some consultations. We’re looking at a re-engagement over this summer with the various associations and hopefully we could make a recommendation of where we go from there. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, deputy minister. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thanks very much for that update. I appreciate that and I’ll look forward to any further conclusions. I appreciate the focus on safety. I think that is pretty well covered with the building standards. What wasn’t in there was quality, or longevity as the architects may refer to it, and the energy, the opportunity to reduce cost of living, basically, for both our residents and our businesses by subscribing to standards, energy standards, which is a bit tough to get your mind around. In fact, the studies show you don’t even spend, but it looks like you are, but when you bring in the cost of mortgage and operation, it’s less. So there is an opportunity to save for our residents on cost of living here. So that would be the focus I’m interested in seeing provided to our communities.

Just on the last part of that, I know tangentially the office of the fire marshal is involved for safety stuff and I see a significant drop from this current fiscal year back to that of the last fiscal year with the office of the fire marshal. I know from time to time they play a role participating in national structures and so on, but was there a particular expense this fiscal year that’s disappearing during ’14-15? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister McLeod.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Have we jumped ahead to public safety, or are we still on the directorate?

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

March 2nd, 2014

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I can hold it.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Okay. Committee, we’re on page 6-13, activity summary, directorate, operations expenditure summary, $5.455 million.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you. Page 6-14, activity summary, directorate, grants and contributions, $638,000. Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I wanted to ask a question with regard to the grant for community government funding. It’s the same amount as last year. I believe, although it does say allocated in accordance with the Extraordinary Funding Policy, the last time we asked about this I believe that there really wasn’t a lot of usage of this particular

fund. So I’d like to know in ’13-14 how much of the $168,000 was used and maybe if they’ve got the information where it was used, to whom it went. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister McLeod.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. When we got the question last year, I was hoping that we’d just reallocate this funding to other areas because we have one legitimate request in for this money right now. So we’re having a look at that. But I think as we go forward we may have to take this $168,000 because all the money that we do have, we allocate to the communities on a formula. Then we have this one pot here with $168,000 and it gives the impression that we’re funding anything that’s extraordinary. So we’d like to have a look at this one application we have now, but I think going forward we may have to rethink this one sixty-eight figure and possibly reallocate it to a different division within MACA. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. That is what I was going to suggest, is that I don’t think there’s much point in leaving this money here and having it lapse every year. So I have a suggestion for the Minister and I think it probably would apply under public safety, but I think that this $168,000, or maybe at least part of it, should be available to communities to assist them in buying defibrillators for their public buildings. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, we will take the Member’s wise words under advisement.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Committee, we’re on 6-14, activity summary, directorate, grants and contributions, $638,000.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Page 6-15, information item, directorate, active positions. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a follow-up. I think the Minister is well prepared for this question on the fire marshal’s office expenditures dropping this year significantly from ’13-14 to ’14-15.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Sorry, Mr. Bromley, we’re on page 6-14, active positions.