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Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Next on the list I have Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have one question here and it has to do with the work that is being done to investigate whether or not communities can, or will be able to, assess a hotel levy. I’m asking particularly for the municipality of Yellowknife. I know there was some work being done. It’s been a very long time that this work was being done. Can I get an update on where things are at? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you. Deputy Minister Williams.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Williams

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regards to the hotel levy, we had some consultations with the Hotel Association here in Yellowknife and also with officials from the City of Yellowknife. It’s something that is still on our work plan. We still want to do some further consultations. Again, it’s added into our legislative agenda that we have, so it has been booked within our legislative agenda.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the DM for that. I appreciate that it’s on the list, but it’s been on the list for about three years now. Is this something that’s going to get solved one way or the other before the end of the 17th Assembly? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Williams

Yes, we certainly see some movement on it and hopefully we can resolve it either way during the life of the 17th Assembly. We

still hear there are some hotel operations outside of the city of Yellowknife that don’t agree with a hotel levy, so we have to make sure that we have something that works for all communities in the NWT. We will certainly try our best efforts to get it resolved before the end of the 17th .

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the DM. I guess just in terms of the philosophy, I’m having great difficulty understanding if this is something that can be applied by each individual community, should they want to do it, why does the disagreement of a hotel operator in a community outside of Yellowknife, impact on the possibility of Yellowknife applying that levy? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Williams

Again, as I mentioned, there’s still some further consultation that has to take place. We’re open to listening to the Yellowknife hotel operators. I think this summer we will be going through some more consultations with them and see if we can have a product that can work for Yellowknife hotel operators, but ideally we would want something that could work for all communities across the NWT.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, deputy minister. Next I have on my list Mr. Dolynny.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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March 2nd, 2014

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to welcome the Minister and the MACA team here again this evening. This question could be easily posed in the community services area later on in the department, but I’m asking it under the term directorate. It should be no surprise to the Minister, he’s heard me explain my concern here when we had the Department of Health and Social Services and this is the topic of our drinking water.

It is a fact that the drinking water quality base falls under the purview of MACA. MACA administers this website that controls the database for chemical testing and the bacteriological testing that should be occurring throughout the Northwest Territories on a monthly basis as per federal guidelines. Yet, Mr. Chair, when one continues to dial in and try to get updates, especially in the wake of the Obed spill that we had before Christmas, I’m still quite puzzled why a number of communities, especially those communities along the Mackenzie water basin area, places like Fort Smith, Hay River, all these place that are on the water, potential contamination zone, we are not seeing robust and rigorous testing as per our guidelines.

Can the Minister or designate shine some light on this as to what are the barriers for us not doing the reporting? If we are doing the reporting, what are the barriers for us not having it in the database? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Minister McLeod.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. ENR has got some monitoring equipment, I believe, in Fort Smith and on the Mackenzie River. As far as the drinking water quality, the community operators take the samples and then they, in turn, provide those samples to Health and Social Services and they do the analysis.

As far as the website goes, we recognize there are some improvements that need to be made to the website, so we have a project team that has been put together to complete the work on the drinking water website. We are expecting a launch date of the new, updated site of June 2014. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

We heard – and I had to go check my notes – this drinking water website or an updated version of the website probably almost two years ago, almost when I first started as a Member. I’m still very concerned.

This is the only website that the public has in order to validate, reassure them in a transparent manner if the testing is being done. So what are those barriers that we can’t update this website with the community drinking water teams that are allegedly doing this testing? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The information, I think, is contained within the MACA website. Again, as I said before, we recognize that we need to improve it, so this site is going to be specifically for the drinking water. We have a project team that’s put together. The launch date is June of 2014. So right now you’d have to navigate through the MACA website, but we’re trying to make it more user-friendly. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Maybe I will rephrase my questions. We do have a drinking water website that MACA administers. The website has a water quality database broken up by community. It is broken by bacteriological testing as well as chemical testing. Yet, when you drill down to each community, in some communities there hasn’t been a test for sometimes up to a year or 12 months ago or six months ago. If you have one testing, you may have only the one chemical testing, but no bacteriological testing. In some cases, you have bacteriological testing and no chemical testing.

So, what are the barriers for putting that information on this particular website today? I’m not sure if we need a working group to do that. It’s about data entering. Are the tests there? Have the tests been done? What have the barriers been in putting them into this “only” public website available to residents of the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

We were anticipating that we were going to launch the new website, but the Member is correct; there is a website there and it has a database. So there actually is no barrier other than entering the information.

I can commit to the Member that we’ll go back and ensure that our website is updated and kept updated even though we are anticipating the launch of the new system in June. Thank you.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I appreciate the Minister’s commitment. The Minister is aware that I’ve been very vocal on water. We’ve got some great

stewardship; we’ve got some great water management strategies. I know the Minister of ENR is well known for the ethics we’re bringing to the Water Strategy and I support all those initiatives. I just want to make sure we’ve got something that the public has access to and it’s updated regularly. I think that’s my goal.

I will leave this with my last question. The GNWT report on drinking water, the last one tabled, according to this website and according to Hansard, is 2011. We have not seen a 2012 report nor have we seen a 2013 report. When can the public and Members here anticipate seeing both water drinking reports tabled in the next little bit? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Our plan is to table them during the May/June session.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I appreciate it. I am looking forward to seeing those documents. No further questions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Next on the list is Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I just have one question and I forgot to ask it earlier and realized it belongs on this page. It has to do with legislation or a legislative agenda as well.

Members have been asking since the 16th when or

if MACA will take action on Access to Information and Protection of Privacy legislation for municipalities. The last I understood there was some work that was going on. I believe there was some consultation with communities. Can I get an update on where that is at as well? Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Director Schauerte.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Schauerte

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The department is completing a discussion paper, a public discussion paper that we intend to take to community governments to outline different facets of what an Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act might look like for community governments. It’s our intention to deliver that consultation paper in the spring this year and we recognize that our Minister is under obligation to return to standing committee based on recommendations from the Privacy Commissioner. We intend to respond to those recommendations from the Privacy Commissioner. Thank you.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Director Schauerte. Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 20-17(5): Conclusion Of Transportation Department Summary, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Thanks to Mr. Schauerte for that. I’m very glad that this is finally maybe coming to some kind of fruition. It’s an issue that the Information and Privacy Commissioner has raised for, I think, at least eight years. So it’s about time that the government actually took some action. So, no more questions. Thanks, Mr. Chair.