This is page numbers 3619 – 3642 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was questions.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

I believe it has all been shared with the Members, but I will resubmit them to committee. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Premier McLeod. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My questions are to the Minister of Transportation on the launch of the new on-line motor vehicles website and registration. I am wondering: in the development of this, is there an agency that the department uses to make sure we have consistency in presentation? That’s for all departments, but especially in this one, I see that it’s been effective and how do we spread that contagious event?

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The honourable Minister of the Department of Transportation, Mr. Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The department is using some organizations in some of the smaller communities. For the most part, we have built our own infrastructure up in the department to be able to provide these services. Thank you.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

As we do more and more items on-line, I am wondering about the duality of running a manual system where somebody can come into an office or they can do it on-line.

When are we expecting to go only on-line? What savings are we seeing by just doing on-line and when will we be eliminating, if we will be eliminating, some of the offices we currently go to?

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Transportation

The on-line services at this time are something that we will be running for three years. Then we are looking at re-evaluating or evaluating the service at that time. Currently, we have minimum walk-in services in most places where we do have walk-in services. For example, we have one station in a place like Inuvik where individuals have the option to walk in to do their registrations and so on. If we went to a full system to save some money, we would have to shut that one down. So, we’re thinking of continuing to run a dual system and that system is designed to make things more efficient, especially to provide a better service to the people of the NWT. Thank you.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

I wonder if the department is actually seeing any savings by implementing this on-line service or if it’s just for convenience of the general public.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Transportation

We do not intend to close any of the walk-in services. We would probably not gain any savings. Again, it’s for more efficiency for people who are trying to do their registration. It’s not a huge cost to add this system. On the other hand, the intent is not to save money by closing down the walk-in service. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Final supplementary, Mr. Bouchard.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. As I indicated, I am pleased with the service. It is very effective. I guess when we have these types of programs, when we start them, do we have an evaluation process in place to start from the beginning? The Minister indicated three years. Is that the evaluation time period? Are we doing an evaluation after one year, two years and three years? Maybe you could just speak to the evaluation process of this service.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Transportation

It’s not a huge operation, so if we wish to do so, it would be easy for us to evaluate after year one, after adding the vehicle registration, document replacement, registered permits and some self-management for some of the other tolls and so on. Once we are able to do that through year one, we can actually do a bit of an

evaluation on it. We were thinking that we would add everything before we did a thorough evaluation. It looks at the outset that it’s going to be a very good system and people seem to like the ability to register their vehicles at home. So this is something we would maintain, but we can do an evaluation at any time. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have some questions addressed to the Minister of Transportation today. I’d like to get an update on the Deh Cho Bridge

It was my understanding that it was to be completed in the summer of 2013. I’d like to first of all ask the Minister, is the bridge considered completed, and if it is not, what is left to be completed and at what cost? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. The Minister of Transportation, Mr. Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. There is no further outstanding work to complete the bridge. Thank you.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that confirmation. I’d like to go back to December of 2011 when the then Minister of Transportation said in a Minister’s statement, December 13th it was, “At

this time I also want to reiterate the commitment of the previous government, which was to undertake a retrospective analysis of the project after it’s completed. The analysis will include total project costs as well as lessons learned.”

I’d like to ask the Minister, now that the bridge project is considered completed, the Minister in 2011 stated that that analysis would take place within six months of completion. I figure we’re probably at about six months of the summer by now.

I’d like to know from the Minister of Transportation if the Department of Transportation is in the process of doing an analysis of the Deh Cho Bridge Project. Thank you.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

The Department of Transportation is aware of the full cost of the bridge and whatnot and the evaluation will be based on the tolls that we’ve put in place for the crossing of the bridge at one point. At the end of I think the last fiscal year, we had completed an analysis of the cost, the toll costs and the revenues that we’ve received from that and we have that information available. Thank you.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

That only goes partway to what I had understood was going to be the analysis of the

project. I think the previous Minister spoke to lessons learned. Certainly, there were a lot of things to be learned from that project. It started off as a P3 project, it did not end up as P3 project. Certainly in the 16th Assembly there were many

comments about what we needed to do to do a comprehensive analysis of the project, where things went right, where things went wrong. I understand that the Minister says there are costs there, but I’d like to know whether or not there’s going to be a further analysis, a comprehensive analysis of the project including all aspects of the project and provide that response to Members and to the public. Thank you.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

I will talk to the department about what extent the bridge has been evaluated in as far as looking at the bridge for lessons learned and so on from the time the bridge was approved until the time the construction was completed and provide that information to the House. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thanks to the Minister, but I want to reiterate that what Members were asking for in the 16th and the

17th and what we’re now expecting is a full analysis

of the project, as the Minister said, from the time that it was contracted…actually, from the time that I think the act was passed to when it was fully completed.

I’d like to know from the Minister, if that has not been done, when he responds, will he please advise when Members can expect that kind of analysis and report? Thank you.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you. I don’t have a timeline on that. What I can do is go back to the department and they will provide me a timeline of that full analysis that the Member speaks of and then provide that timeline to the House. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I want to follow up with questions to the Minister of Justice today in regard to my Member’s statement.

Concerns were brought to my office, phone calls, e-mails, in regard to some of the issues that we continue to face in our small communities. All you have to look at are some of these coroner’s reports of the alcohol and drug-related fatalities that we continue to see over the years every time a report is tabled in this House. If you look at where some of these alcohol and drug-related fatalities have taken

place, and they’ve taken place in communities where there are no liquor establishments, there are no liquor stores, so the alcohol and drugs had to get there somehow.

My first question today will be: Has the Minister of Justice worked with any partners to develop stiffer penalties for those that are caught bootlegging in their communities? Thank you, Madam Speaker.