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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you to the Minister. So when we look at the budget line we have here for $179,000, what exactly is the expected result of that investment? Again, when we’re hearing the department say we couldn’t find a proponent or no one has replied to the RFP, could it be by chance that there’s not enough money on the table that any proponent would be of interest to invest? Do we have enough money invested in this very worthwhile, organic part of our court system? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

We do have, in addition to this money which is there to help operators with small equipment purchases, about $800,000 under another line item in the main estimates to help us get an on-the-land program. This is a small component of that, but there are other components to it as well on other pages. Thank you.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

It’s not that I don’t believe the Minister; I believe the Minister is being very upfront with that but, unfortunately, I can only go, and committee can only go, based on what’s in the activity summary for this particular line entry. With that in mind, Mr. Chair, I do have a motion here.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Please go ahead with the motion, Mr. Dolynny.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 23rd, 2014

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I move that this committee recommends that the government in the 2014-2015 fiscal year allocate an additional $300,000 to complement existing funding for on-the-land programming, to establish a guiding framework, including definitive safety protocols and tools, for evaluating outcomes of the planned program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The motion is being distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Dolynny.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the ability to be able to bring this motion forward. The Minister has spoken to some of the components of this motion. However, committee still feels that we’re not quite there with having all those initiatives in place in terms of having a very successful on-the-land program.

It is also apparent that there isn’t a lot of uptake in the communities, albeit even in the Northwest Territories, because there has been no success in

the RFP program, which tends to lend itself to the fact do we have enough money put in this program. That being said, I believe committee has still reached out to the department to formalize and to bring to the committee a very formal methodology and mechanism to, I guess, reassure us that we do have a guiding framework and a definitive safety protocol in evaluating tools in place. Up to this time, the committee has not seen these guiding principles, so it was with that in mind that committee and Members felt bringing this motion forward would help establish a more firm framework in order so that, collectively, we all want the same thing. We want to see a very successful on-the-land wilderness camp program.

With that, I’m sure other Members might have some comments. If not, I’ll ask for a recorded vote.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. I have Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Once again, because there’s a value attached to this and I’m extremely concerned about drawing down on the resources of government because we will have to, through a cutback exercise shortly, and everybody’s well aware that we did not have time to work in our $30 million that’s in this budget.

I won’t be supporting this motion, but this is a very important issue that the mover of the motion brings up, Mr. Dolynny. Giving the government $300,000 is just not going to work. There has to be a better way to address this very, very important issue.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

To the motion. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will be supporting this motion. I agree with Mr. Menicoche, it is, indeed, a very important program and needs the support that is required to make it successful. I’m confident that the Cabinet can find the way to make savings in the system to cover this.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. To the motion. Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I really appreciate the Member bringing forward this motion. As I mentioned a few minutes ago, we have close to $800,000 earmarked for on-the-land programs in this year’s budget, $787,000 to be exact. I’ve also made a commitment earlier to provide the established safety protocols and the framework to Members, and we will get that to Members as soon as possible. Again, it was part of the RFP process. We also will continue to work diligently on finding a service provider for a wilderness camp here in the Northwest Territories, and again, we have to remain optimistic that that can happen, and it’s not because we lack the resources to do that. We have the resources in this year’s budget to allow us to do that and we are still

going to pursue a service provider to allow us to do that. But I do appreciate the Member’s motion.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Minister Ramsay.

Committee Motion 13-17(5): Funding For Evaluation Of On-The-Land Programming, Defeated
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An Hon. Member

Question.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Question is being called. All those in favour, please stand.

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Clerk Of The House (Ms. Langlois)

Mr. Dolynny, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Hawkins, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Moses, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Blake.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

All those opposed, please stand.

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Clerk Of The House (Ms. Langlois)

Mr. Menicoche, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Abernethy, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. McLeod – Yellowknife South, Mr. Lafferty, Mr. Ramsay, Mr. McLeod – Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you. The motion is defeated seven to eight.

---Defeated

Thank you, committee. Committee, we’re on page 9-31, activity summary, corrections, operations expenditure summary, $38.928 million. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. I guess the same questions to the Minister. We can go through it all or I think he understands funded, unfunded, which, et cetera, et cetera. I’ve asked the question repeatedly. I think he knows the question by now. To the Minister, I guess.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we can get that level of the detail for the Member.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Minister Ramsay. Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I have a couple questions. Would the Minister know roughly how many adult inmates we have and how many juvenile inmates in the system, either now or sort of on average through the year?