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Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. Page 10-13, activity summary, corporate management, operations expenditure summary, $11.544 million. Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Chair, I don’t have any questions on this page, but I am going to say that I appreciate the reorganization. It seems to have been done here. Frankly, I can’t think of what it was like before, but I have to say that these sections in this division seem quite logical for me and a good response to the Auditor General’s general report and the folks of many of these comments. It

certainly is in line with that which I do understand, so I appreciate that being done here. Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. I will approach that as a comment. Moving on with questions on this page, I have Mr. Menicoche, followed by Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Chair, under corporate management, of course they have the responsibility of finance and capital planning. I know that this is our operation and maintenance budget, but schools in our small communities ought to be a priority. I’m pleased that we finished building the big schools in the big communities. I really feel that it’s time to turn our attention while we can before there’s another issue in a larger community. Let’s try to get some of these older schools in the smaller communities built and those that don’t have any, like I’ve been making a case for Trout Lake. It is more of a comment at this point. I may raise it again in the next section under Education and Culture. This is just in terms of finance and capital planning. Perhaps I can just ask the Minister what his thoughts are on strategy for small schools as we move forward here. Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Minister Lafferty.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Chair, the Member has raised this issue on numerous occasions. It is one of the priorities of this department because we are going through some changes. Education renewal innovation was one of the pillars that are focusing on small community schools. Just as a reminder, Members have reiterated and focused on small communities. That is one of the drives within our pillars. Mahsi, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Just in terms of capital planning, I know that we review that in the fall time, so what is the time frame of continuing to press forward with the capital planning for small schools like Trout Lake? Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Chair, obviously there is a process we have to go through with the capital planning process later this year and going through some various stages, at the approval stages. We, as a department, will push for those schools in the Northwest Territories, those that are really urgently needed for a retrofit or renovation or replacement. Based on the criteria that have been highlighted through the process, we have to follow the guidelines. Obviously, the Member’s riding of small communities, they have reiterated that, so we will be doing our part as a department to push that forward in the small communities initiative. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. On this page activity, we have Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Sorry I didn’t hear you, Mr. Chairman. It’s tough to hear over here. I want to

echo Mr. Bromley’s comments about the reorganization. I think that has been a good thing. I presume that the Education Renewal Initiative work is being done under corporate management, and I just would like to know what section of corporate management the ERI comes under. I am presuming it’s planning, research and evaluation, but if I could get a bit of an explanation on that. How has that been funded, the whole work that has been done on the ERI? Has that been funded from within, or is there money in this budget earmarked specifically for ERI in the ‘14-15 year? Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Lafferty.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. The whole education renewal innovation is a big project that we are undertaking at this point. We are developing action plans towards that by later this summer. It is an internal reallocation to push this forward and obviously we are going to have to come back to the Legislative Assembly, depending on cost factor, once the action plans develop. I will get the deputy to maybe elaborate more on detail. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Ms. Eggenhofer.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Eggenhofer

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, once the action plan for the Education Renewal Initiative is completed, which we anticipate to be in May, there will be a budget that will be developed alongside the action plan and that will be, hopefully, considered as the department is developing its business plan in the summer months. In terms of the organization of the reform and innovation division, that division works out of the directorate. The director of reform and innovation is reporting to myself, and it has been funded entirely from within existing resources. Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Eggenhofer. Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the action plan should be out in May. I thought I heard that there would not be any money in the ‘14-15 budget for the ERI Action Plan. Is that correct? Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Lafferty.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. Part of the process is, obviously, to develop the action plan and put it towards the next main estimates for the upcoming year. There are a couple of areas that we should be able to move forward on, but the overall theme of the action plan, once it has developed the cost factor, then we need to put it into the mains and I guess we will request our approval from there from the Legislative Assembly. That’s the process that we’re going through. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

So if there are some things that are going to be able to be moved forward on, they are going to be funded from within. Is that correct? I’m asking if there is new money in this budget for the ERI. Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that response, we will go to Deputy Minister Eggenhofer.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Eggenhofer

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can advise that a number of the actions that we have identified already in the preliminary development of the action plan can be funded from within existing resources and others will require new funds. The ones that we have been able to fund from within existing resources are $623,000 in this fiscal year to be provided to the Do Edaezhe program. The money will go to the Yellowknife Catholic School Board and the funding will be to assist for the program to actually be extended outside of the community of Yellowknife into the community of Hay River.

The other funding that we have managed to secure is half a million dollars for e-learning which will go to the Beaufort-Delta Education Council and, again, it is in an effort for the Beaufort-Delta Education Council to look at their e-learning initiative and expand it into other small communities. So those two initiatives are ERI initiatives, funded from within this current fiscal years’ budget. Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, so I just thought I heard the deputy minister say this current budget year for these two projects. Could I get clarification on that? I was asking about ‘14-15. Is this $1.1 million coming out of ‘13-14 or ‘14-15? Thank you.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Lafferty.

Committee Motion 16-17(5): Comprehensive Review Of The Program Review Office, Defeated
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Chair, those two particular programs are from the 2013-14 budget.