I’m just wondering, like, 19 positions, say, would be a couple million dollars, and transfer of $2.73 million, so we’re not transferring any O and M with that, just the $2.73 million? I just want to be clear on that. It sounds like there hasn’t been much efficiency in the transfer of 19 positions and the programs that go with them.

My understanding is that O and M did go with it, so they were fully-funded positions.

That certainly provides clarity. It doesn’t show me much for efficiency, but it does give me an accurate basis on which to discuss the budget.

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. General comments. Does committee agree we go to detail?

Committee, we’ll continue with detail after a short break.

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I’d like to call committee back to order. We are on Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, page 6-7, department summary, operations expenditure summary, $99.451 million. We will defer this until activity detail and information items have been considered. Page 6-8, information item, infrastructure investment summary. Are there any questions?

Page 6-9, information item, revenue summary. Questions?

Page 6-10, information item, active position summary. Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the Minister had been here when I asked each department all of these numerous detailed questions about their human resource management, whether they are funded or unfunded. I can go through the whole list, but I think he’s heard it a few times. We could probably save a lot of time by me just going to the Minister. I want that detail as far as these position allocations are concerned. Is he able to provide them? If so, that is my only question on this area. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a list here with a lot of the positions. I don’t think it’s going to do any good if I just read it out. I’ll provide a copy of the list to Members. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. He said he would provide the list. Again, I assume it is a breakdown of funded, unfunded, et cetera. I am seeing nods from the staff’s heads, so it sounds like that is everything I need. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Committee, we are on page 6-10, information item, active position summary.

Page 6-13, activity summary, directorate, operations expenditure summary, $5.455 million. Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to note on the previous page that it looks like we’ve dropped 20 positions from this department rather than 19, according to numbers here. I just noticed that we’re up 33 percent with compensation and benefits for the directorate and yet we’ve gone down 20 positions in the department. I see we picked up a property assessment and the directorate has gone up by five positions.

Could I just have an explanation, given that we’re dropping a lot of our responsibilities in the department – sorry, we are transferring a lot of our responsibilities over to Lands – and recognizing we picked up property assessment, why are we up the five positions and the 33 percent increase in compensation and benefits? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We only mentioned the 19 because we haven’t told the twentieth person yet. No. Nineteen are funded, the twentieth one was an unfunded position. We didn’t feel we had to report it.

The property assessment, we are keeping that function within MACA because it was lands. We are transferring that function. It’s going to the directorate, I believe, because they will still be responsible for doing the assessments and all the Commissioner’s land within community boundaries, so we thought it was important that we retain that part of it within MACA. That’s what you see the internal reallocation is for. I think it’s $857,000 that we have moved over from lands to the directorate. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Bromley.

That’s all I had, Mr. Chair. Thank you.