This is page numbers 6061 – 6102 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This process is the final check and balance. We only have one major infrastructure department, which is Public Works and Services. We have another infrastructure department focused on housing, which is the Housing Corporation. Other than that, everybody else has other business. This type of situation has occurred and between the two infrastructure departments. We’ve managed to come up with the money to take care of this much needed demolition and put the land back into use.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

I guess my question is who decided that this project was a priority with the extra $900,000 that was lapsed over from Public Works and Services?

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

It came through to FMB. This demolition has been a priority for quite a number of years. It’s just that we haven’t had the funds to take care of the project and, in fact, demolish the property and put it back into use. With the funds identified by the deputy minister, we were able to do that. Anybody that has been to Inuvik would see what an eyesore it was right in the heart of the community, and it’s a very significant issue to get out of the way after all these years.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Like I indicated, I don’t have a problem with the demolition in Inuvik. I’m just wondering what other projects were deferred. What list do we have of this type of project that we selected from and Inuvik was chosen? Were there any other projects that were high on the Public Works and Services list to spend that $900,000?

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

There is no list as the Member is suggesting. This was brought forward as a long outstanding issue where there were finally funds able to be put to use.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

No further questions.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. Committee, we’re on page 4, Finance, operations expenditures, deputy minister’s office, not previously authorized, $1.472 million. Total department, not previously authorized, $1.472 million. Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. Page 5, Public Works and Services, operations expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, negative $1.472 million. Total department not previously authorized, negative $1.472 million. Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Page 6, Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, program delivery support, not previously authorized. Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a couple of questions here. The first one is the first line item, the funding for increased costs related to Hay River Health and Social Services Authority Pension Plan. This is an item which I think has appeared every year since I’ve been here, or at least for the last several years.

Can I get an explanation as to whether this is something that is going to continue on into the future until we presumably bring those staff in under the GNWT public service, or is this an amount and is this amount that is going to be similar for the years following, or is this kind of a one-time cost? Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This will be an ongoing cost until the determination is made to put the funds necessary to bring this contingent of staff into the public service in the territorial government. Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the Minister. I don’t remember what the total amount would be that we have put into the pension plan for the Hay River Health and Services Authority, but I would think it’s many, many millions of dollars.

How close are we to bringing the Hay River Health and Social Services Authority in under our GNWT public service so we can bite the bullet once and for all, pay what we need to pay to get their pension plan in, similar to superannuation, and then have them as our employees going forward? Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that response, I believe we’re going to be going to Minister Abernethy.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Moving forward with health transformation, we want to bring the Hay River Health and Social Services into the public service. The Department of Health and the Department of Human Resources have been given the mandate by Cabinet to enter into negotiations with the Hay River Health and Social Services Authority, the UNW as well as superann to figure out how we can move forward with that to actually make that happen, recognizing the potential costs, articulating, determining what those costs might be so that we can bring it back to the House. The work is beginning this year. We’ll have a better sense of the costs later this year, hopefully, to begin to have those discussions with committee.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to Minister Abernethy. Is it likely that we are going to see this switch executed in the ‘15-16 budget year? Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Chair, the timeline is we need to pass the legislation. The legislation is before committee. Committee is reviewing that legislation. Should that legislation pass, then we have a go live date of April 1, 2016. Our hope would be that we would be able to facilitate this change for that time, but we recognize that it may take a little bit longer to work through all the challenges with superann and union, but our goal is to look at April 1, 2016. So it would not be the 2015-16 fiscal year.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks again to the Minister. That’s a great target date. I certainly hope that it can be met.

My other question on this page has to do with the next line item, transfer of funding from Education, Culture and Employment to support the expansion

of the Healthy Family Program. I’m certainly in support of expanding the Healthy Family Program, but I’m trying to understand where the money is coming from in Education that’s going to be transferred to the Healthy Family Program. Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that we’ll go to Mr. Kalgutkar.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Kalgutkar

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The program that the money will be transferred from is the Child and Family Resource Program that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment got as part of the $1.25 million they got as part of their Early Childhood Development Initiative. Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to Mr. Kalgutkar for that answer. The Child and Family Resource Program I thought was a fairly successful one, so does that suggest that it’s not a successful program and that it’s being scaled back? Thank you.

Committee Motion 103-17(5): Concurrence Of Td 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015, Carried
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Kalgutkar

The department did do a review of the program and it was felt at the time that the best maximum benefit of this funding could be achieved if it transferred the money to the Department of Health and Social Services to achieve more benefit. Thank you.