Agreed.
Debates of Feb. 16th, 2015
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair Robert Bouchard
Page 159, deputy minister’s office, operations expenditure summary, $96.193 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Robert Bouchard
Page 160, deputy minister’s office, grants, contributions and transfers, $92.968 million. Ms. Bisaro.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Two questions. The first one has to do with contributions to the Heritage Fund. I noted in the Minister’s opening remarks, he stated an increase of $7.4 million to the contribution to the NWT Heritage Fund and that the total will be $7.6 million. I didn’t quite understand where the extra $0.2 million comes in and how we went from what the increase of $7.4 million is. I don’t understand the numbers.
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Starting in ’13-14 and ’14-15 we had contributed $250,000 a year and we are proposing that in ’15-16, as a result of devolution and as a result of finally receiving some resource revenues, we’ll add $7.35 million to that for a grand total of a $7.6 million contribution to the Heritage Fund.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
Okay. Thanks, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the DM for that. That explains that, and I’m glad we’re going to put in the $250,000. That’s great.
My other question has to do with the Northwest Territories Power Corporation general rate application. I see that in ’15-16 there is no grant, no contribution there. My question goes to the impact of the end of this contribution and this subsidy which has given us bit of a rate holiday. How is that going to impact the power bills of residents? What am I going to see on my power bill, for instance, in ’15-16 since we’re no longer contributing anything to help reduce the cost of power?
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Member could expect to see another rate increase of single digits. The exact amount is not clear to me yet, but we protected against the rate cliff for four years and the price of diesel and the accommodation we have to make for that, the pressures have continued.
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Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake
To the Minister, I just want it clarified. I think I understood what he said, but we had a very large increase four years ago which we have been gradually spreading out over the last four years, and in that time costs have increased and the Power Corp now faces another shortfall, so that is why we will be seeing another increase right away. Is that correct?
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Yes, and of course, knock on wood, there are no low water challenges layered on top of that.
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The Chair Robert Bouchard
Committee, we’re on page 160, deputy minister’s office, grants, contributions and transfers, $92.968 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair Robert Bouchard
Page 163, fiscal policy, operations expenditure summary, $34.816 million. Mr. Dolynny.
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Daryl Dolynny Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have two questions on this activity, the first of which is the cost of living tax credit where it appears that we’re regressing on our main estimates compared to last year, maybe as a reflection to the population decrease or increase. But, to the overall question, do we anticipate that the government may look at any changes to this cost of living tax credit during this fiscal year?
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Daryl Dolynny Range Lake
I guess the question is: Does the government see the potential benefits of increasing the amount of wage dollars going to those most vulnerable on the low end of the wage scale? Does the government or the department not see a benefit of not only raising the average wage, which we did, but also take a look at a combination of also putting more dollars in people’s back pockets by adjusting the cost of living tax credit?
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The current cost of living tax credit as it is currently constructed already provides and gives a total rebate for payroll tax to those low-income earners as opposed to those high-income earners who don’t get the full rebate back, so on balance this does do that. The other consideration, of course, is we have to balance that off versus whatever the loss of revenue would be to the government by increasing
the cost of living tax credit. As the Minister said, at this particular time there is no effort on our part to look to change it at this time.