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Question 748-17(5): Emergency Services In Small Communities
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

It is a problem that we are taking steps to deal with. Every year I have the privilege of attending the NWT Fire Chief’s Association’s annual general meeting. Each year, obviously, the participants showed great interest in this topic. Make no mistake about it, community fire protection in the Northwest Territories is challenging and we are taking steps to deal with that. The communities are upgrading their training and we are working with them to upgrade their training. They also have in their ability, through their CPI funding and gas tax, to purchase firefighting equipment and get the proper training. It is a concern and one that is being dealt with by the communities in the Northwest Territories. I have great confidence in their abilities to put good plans together, implement the plans and make sure they have all the infrastructure they need in place, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.

Question 748-17(5): Emergency Services In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Human Resources. I want follow up on my statement when I talked about absenteeism and mental health in the workplace and making our workplace better.

I mentioned a statistic from the 2013 Public Service Annual Report and I’d like to first off ask the Minister, the statistic I mentioned was 12.3 days absence per employee in the year 2013. So, I’d like to know from the Minister, if he can tell me, what accounts for the very high incidence of days absent from work? Are there any statistics that he can give us, to me, to the House? Any reasons for absence that add up to 12.3 days per employee? Thank you.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister of Human Resources, Mr. Beaulieu.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The sick leave is monitored and tracked by the Department of Human Resources; however, specifically why the individual employees are on sick leave is not indicated. It’s a privacy matter and individuals have a union agreement that they are allowed a certain amount of sick leave. If they’re within that amount of sick leave that’s allocated within their employment agreement, then we don’t

ask why. If they start to exceed that amount, then there’s more investigation with the employee and there could be discussions to determine exactly why an individual would be missing more than what is allowed in the agreement. Thank you.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. It may be that every employee is allowed 12 sick days per year according to their Collective Agreement, but I’d like to know from the Minister, because the Public Service Annual Report presumably looks at all aspects of our public service, and I would hope that they would also be looking at costs of certain actions of our public service, does the Minister have any idea what the cost is for 12.3 days of absence per employee in a calendar year? Thank you.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

The negotiated amount is actually 15 days of sick leave per employee. Once they exceed not the 15 days but a certain amount of days, less than 15, I think it is nine days, the individual can be questioned by their supervisor as to why.

Determining the cost, I guess I don’t have that specific number with me; however, it would be very easy to determine the cost. We just have to track the sick leaves, as we have done, to determine how much the individuals are being paid who are taking the sick leave, do the arithmetic and we would come up with the number. Thank you.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I would think with 4,500 or 5,000 employees, whatever we have, times 12 days times an average salary per day, it’s going to be a pretty huge number. I would urge the Minister to look at that number and consider that maybe we ought to be considering the cost of absenteeism and working to bring that down somehow.

There is a report that I have encountered which says that up to 25 percent of mental disability costs directly incurred by an employer are preventable. I talked a lot in my statement about mental health and the need for us to make it easier for people to talk about it, easier for people to bring it into the workplace, not the mental health illness itself but to talk about it.

One of the things that I think is increasing more and more is stress leave. So, I’d like to know from the Minister, in terms of mental illness in the workplace, in terms of stress leave, which I think is a mental illness in itself, what are we doing with our workplaces, in our workplaces to try and reduce stress and to try and reduce the amount of absenteeism related to mental illness and stress? Thank you.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

All of the departments do have occupational health and safety committees. They have regular meetings and they talk to the departments within the department heads and so on. If there is an issue where they think that

individuals could be missing a lot of work, then they can’t really come out and ask individuals why they are missing work, so there is an offer that we have within the government that is an Employee and Family Assistance Program. Many people take advantage of that.

Last year, out of the public service, we had just slightly over 800 individuals access that program, so it could be part of their family as well. This year we’re anticipating that it will be closer to 900 individuals accessing the EFAP. This is available to people and we do have a campaign where we try to have the departments aware of the invisible disabilities, which mental health and illness could fall under. We do try to communicate to the employees on mental health in the workplace.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I appreciate that we have health and safety committees, and I’m very glad to hear that employees are taking advantage of the services that are available for them. But I’m talking a bit more about something that is broader. I’m talking about a culture in the workplace. We have tried to promote a culture of safety. I think we also need to promote a culture within the workplace where it’s okay to talk about mental illness and mental health problems. The Minister mentioned a campaign.

I guess I would like to know from the Minister: What are we doing to try and promote a culture of awareness of health, acceptance of disabilities and differences, for lack of any better way of putting it?

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

The campaign has posters. We promote an inclusive workplace and we provide information to our employees. We have a GNWT Advisory Committee on Employability and the Employee and Family Assistance Program. We look at these. We try to promote as much as possible. We do encourage our managers to have discussions with individuals where we suspect that they are missing work due to mental illness and try to direct them in the right place so that they can receive some help. But there are a lot of privacy issues here as well. We have to be cognizant of privacy issues, so we work within that, recognizing that there are privacy issues. But this is what we do to try to assist employees.

Questions 749-17(5): Public Service Absenteeism And Workplace Mental Health
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. The Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Blake.

Question 750-17(5): Replacing Moose Kerr School In Aklavik
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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Built in 1969, Moose Kerr School was named after Arnold J. Kerr, a long-standing principal who strove to

incorporate the local culture into the daily learning environment.

The school underwent renovations in 1997 with the expansion of the senior high wing and the addition of a beautiful library that is reflective of the cultures. The library was later recognized as a public school library to service both students and community.

Moose Kerr School is the oldest school in the Northwest Territories as of today. Even though one is older, but it did go through major renovations in 2005-2006, so technically Moose Kerr School is the oldest. I’d like to ask the Minister of Public Works, what are the plans for Moose Kerr School in 2019?

Question 750-17(5): Replacing Moose Kerr School In Aklavik
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Mr. Beaulieu, Public Works.

Question 750-17(5): Replacing Moose Kerr School In Aklavik
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government’s plan for any infrastructure is to replace infrastructure after 40 years, or 20 years after a major renovation, so the plan would be to replace the Moose Kerr School in 2019.

Question 750-17(5): Replacing Moose Kerr School In Aklavik
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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

That’s just what I wanted to hear. Thank you.

Question 750-17(5): Replacing Moose Kerr School In Aklavik
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. The Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Nadli.

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Often our people, for some reason, go astray and it takes great effort to bring people back on the trail. My question is for the Premier.

The Auditor General has indicated that correctional facilities don’t seem to have enough program dollars specifically allocated for rehabilitation of inmates. That sounds like a failure on the government’s part to live up to its statutory obligations.

Will this government be providing additional funding to ensure that inmates receive programming aimed at rehabilitation and reintegration?

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To enhance accountability, the development of a performance assurance and accountability framework commenced last year. This framework outlines consistent and effective management as well as proper monitoring of procedures and protocols and improved rehabilitative and reintegration programs. The framework will be fully implemented by 2016.

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I’d like to thank the Premier for indicating just the progress in terms of the department that’s mandated to oversee the correctional facilities. Often, too, because of our

government and our zest to try and help each other, we sometimes take an institutional approach as contrasted with going out on the land as a healing element.

I would like to ask about on-the-land programs. The 2013 Minister’s Forum on Addictions called for more on-the-land treatment options. What it heard is that on-the-land programs are very effective as long as the approach isn’t overly bureaucratic.

Why isn’t this type of programming being used in all of our correctional facilities?

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Earlier on, the government made a statement about on-the-land programs with the Department of Justice. We did have a number of programs and they fell by the wayside because of a number of operational issues. The Department of Justice is going out for expressions of interest to have these programs come into effect. I did discuss it with the office of the Auditor General as part of the rehabilitation. As you know, having inmates go out on the land has to be a voluntary situation. We can’t force them to go on on-the-land programs. That is part of the issue as well.

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I have heard the Department of Justice on the south side of the lake has had good results out of Hay River, South Slave and the Deh Cho regions by using a team-based approach to community reintegration.

Will the government be expanding this type of program across the territory so that all offenders have an appropriate degree of support when they return to their communities?

Question 751-17(5): Rehabilitation And Reintegration Programs For Inmates
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

All inmates sentenced, remands and intermittents, should receive case management assessments. We agree and we will be working to ensure case plans to guide inmate rehabilitations are developed for all inmates including release dates. Plans will need to be documented, monitored and adjusted as necessary. This is what the Auditor General has recommended and we have agreed and we accept all of his recommendations.