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Bill 65: An Act To Amend The Safety Act
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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called. The motion is carried.

---Carried

Bill 65 has had second reading and is referred to standing committee.

Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 66, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowances Act and the Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act; Committee Report 16-17(5), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2013-2014 Public Accounts; and Committee Report 19-17(5), Report on the Review of the Auditor General's Report on Corrections in the NWT, with Mr. Bouchard in the chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

I'll call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of the committee? Ms. Bisaro.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We would like to consider Bill 66, Committee Report 16-17(5) and Committee Report 19-17(5).

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Is committee agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

I'll go to the mover of the bill. Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowances Act and the Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act currently provides survivor benefits to a Member or a former Member's dependent children if they are less than the age of majority or if they are under the age of 25, unmarried and attending school or university on a full-time basis.

The amendments to the Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowances Act and the Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act will broaden the definition of a child to include an adult child who is dependent on a Member or a former Member for the necessities of life. This definition mirrors the Canada Income Tax Act definition of a child and will entitle a Member or a former Member's adult dependent child to survivor pension benefits.

These amendments were drafted at the request of a current pensioner and are supported by the Board of Management of the Legislative Assembly.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Do you have witnesses to bring into the House?

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Is committee agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the House.

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Can you please introduce your witnesses.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To my left I have Kelly McLaughlin, director, legislation division, Department of Justice; and my right-hand man, Mr. Tim Mercer, Clerk of the Legislative Assembly.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Blake. I'll open with general comments to the bill. Mr. Dolynny.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to welcome Mr. Blake to the witness table, and colleagues.

Just some housekeeping items with respect to this act. When something like this comes into play it will definitely factor into the quantities, the dollar figures in the pension fund and make changes thereof. Has there been any actuarial performance done as to what impact this may have on our current plan?

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll refer that to Mr. Mercer.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Mr. Mercer.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The pension plan actuaries have reviewed these amendments and have provided their view that the potential implications of the amendment are speculative. In other words, there's no certainty that they will ever be called upon for use, and if they are called upon for use that they will have a negligible impact on the actuarial evaluation of the pension plan.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I appreciate the response to that. To the question of timing, if this bill goes through here, when does this bill become enacted in terms of affecting... I assume, it was brought forward by one of the pensioners. When would this trigger any type of monetary flow?

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This will come into effect immediately at assent.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you. I have no further questions.

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The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Committee, we're on general comments on Bill 66. Committee is agreed we'll go to clause-by-clause review of the bill?