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Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Gault. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Where would I find detail on security software, security infrastructure that is protecting the government? I see we have information per department, but are we tracking -- is there a clear way to see what we are spending on information security? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Ms. Gault.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Gault

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At the desktop level, we provide encryption on all laptops, as well as we have just implemented desktop software with antivirus as well as hacking, illegal attempts. This is on every desktop. At the data centre level, we have firewall protection, so against traffic coming in and out of our data centre, in through the government. At those, as well as on the infrastructure itself, there is security built into the different pieces of equipment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Gault. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

For the data centres themselves, which would be in the area of most vulnerability if there are issues there, is that contained in the Public Works and Services line? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will let the deputy minister address that answer.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No. The Public Works and Services line would just be our portion of the chargeback. So it would be rolled up into the overall budget of the TSC, and some of it would be under contract services. For example, there is licensing around security software; some of it would be O and M, for purchasing small hardware associated with the security software. But the security is a significant portion of the work that we do at the TSC. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the department clarifying these questions. Finally, are we funding positions that are specialized in security analysis and how many there are? What are they? Can I just get more detail on those positions if they do exist? Thank you.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Guy.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The overall responsible for the security is the Chief Information Officer's Office in the Department of Finance. He has some specific staff in his office that are focused on security. Our role is really to make sure that we adhere to the security policies and best practices. I will have Laurie speak to the detail, but we do provide specific training around security to the staff that operate the data centres and the equipment and the software and the servers. In terms of overall security policy and monitoring, on a global scale, more of that would fall under the purview of the sales office. But I will ask Ms. Gault, if the Chair will allow, to provide additional detail. Thank you.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

That is fine. I will save questions for the Department of Finance. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Any more questions for Technology Service Centre? Seeing none, I will call the activity total. Technology Service Centre, operations expenditure summary, activity total, $1,712,000. Agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We have some information items at the end of the chapter, page 395, public stores revolving fund. Questions? Seeing none, page 396, petroleum products revolving fund. Page 397, petroleum products revolving fund, active positions? Seeing no questions, move on to page 398. Lease commitments. Any questions on lease commitments? I see no questions from committee we move on. Page 399, work performed on behalf of others. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the Royal Canadian Mounted Police line item the description indicates that we have an MOA in place with regard to maintenance and utility management services. I'm just curious as to why in 2014-15 we are at about five and a half million dollars and then in the last couple of years we're at $8 million. What was the increase for? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you. I'll let Paul Guy answer that as well.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The funding level for that program is established with the RCMP on an annual basis. The actual numbers were based on what we spent in 2014-15 delivering that program up to that limit of $8 million. It was, I think, very early on in the program, we were still ramping up, still doing a billing assessment, condition assessments so we did not do as many perhaps retrofit and renovations projects that year as we are now doing. Most of it was basic code-mandated preventative maintenance on fire extinguishers, alarm systems, dealing with backlogs on their boiler and system repairs. So it was really just ramping up to the level of funding, it is fully charged back, it's fully recovered, and it's for the work plan that we developed in cooperation with the RCMP. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Seeing nothing further from Mr. Vanthuyne, I have Mr. O'Reilly.