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Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not quite sure of the exact number of DFO officers there are hired by the federal government, but I will gather that information and share it with the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Recently this government has been trying to diversify our economy. In that effort, we are extolling the value of a fishing strategy and that we need to try to get communities involved and revitalize the whole industry. At the same time, we are promoting tourism and also sport fishing. There is an increase in interest of activities to be out on the land. In its role as the government of the Northwest Territories, how are we protecting the waters of the NWT?

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The Member, I think, raised a couple of questions there. He was talking about the fishing industry, and then the question was about protecting the waters of the NWT. Protecting the waters of the NWT, we obviously have a water strategy that we are working on. As far as the fishing goes, I mean, again, that is a federal responsibility. We have been listening to some of the outfitters on their concerns with sport fishing, so we have had those discussions with the federal Minister.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

It is pretty clear that there might be a strong case for us, perhaps, from the GNWT's perspective to make a trip to Ottawa and ask for more officers here because we have a big land mass, 1.3 million square kilometres, but also just fresh from the devolution experience. Are we contemplating the idea of more control and authority for the NWT? With that in mind, has the ENR Minister met with his federal counterpart to discuss our needs in terms of ensuring that we have additional officers for the NWT?

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

We have had those discussions with the federal Minister of Fisheries, and we have raised the concern about the number of fisheries officers. They are more concerned with, through the devolution agreement, putting responsibility for fisheries on the GNWT as part of the devolution. We are continuing to have those discussions, and we have raised it with them, but their concern is possibly giving the NWT the responsibility for fisheries.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is this the natural evolution of how we have heard devolution? It is ongoing, evolve and devolve. I think again there is an opportunity for us to perhaps push the agenda further on terms of taking on more responsibility for water and resources. The Minister has stated that he has had discussions with his federal counterpart on this very idea of taking more responsibility from the federal government, so is there a timeline in terms of this government engaging the federal government in terms of devolving more responsibility, especially for water and fisheries, to the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

As far as the timeline goes, I am not sure. I will find out. We continue to have discussions with our counterparts in Ottawa. I think water, we already have. I think the discussion was more around the fisheries part of it. We will continue to have those discussions with the federal Minister of Fisheries. Also, on the ENR side, I do have a PT coming up, I think, in the beginning of November, and there might be an opportunity there to have those discussions, as well. We will continue our discussions with the federal Minister, and I take the Member's point about devolve and evolve. That is exactly what we are looking at. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 852-18(2): Management Of Northern Water Resources
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to do some follow-up with the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation. I had a line of questioning yesterday, and I ended it with asking the Minister if he would commit the Power Corporation to meeting with the appropriate committee to report on the annual capital acquisition plan and main estimates. I recall the Minister closing with comments that said something to the effect that he would be happy to meet with committee. So, for clarification, I would just like to know: is the Minister prepared to have the Power Corporation present its capital acquisition plan with substantiations as well as main estimates, in the fall, to Members or to the appropriate committee? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

As indicated in my answer yesterday, Mr. Speaker, we are always prepared to appear before standing committee. However, the Power Corporation is a little different than the rest of the government in that we appear in front of the Public Utilities Board for discussions about our budgeting and ongoing requests for rates, so I think it would be duplicitous and probably a waste of time to go through that sort of exhaustive exercise also before committee.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

I can guarantee the Minister that it is not ever going to be a waste of time. The ratepayers of the Northwest Territories, who contribute to the Power Corporation millions of dollars a year, want and deserve another level of accountability. Every other department of this government, they present their annual business case for the year, both for operating and maintenance as well as capital, with substantiations, to the people right here in this House, and so that is what I am asking the Minister to commit to. I mean, unless he is trying to tell me that the Public Utilities Board is who I have to start asking for those answers. Is that the case? I would like to ask the Minister that. Is it the Public Utilities Board that has to come under questioning with regard to the O and M and capital business of the Power Corporation?

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

We would be prepared to appear in front of committee to discuss in a general sense our ongoing plans for the Power Corporation. However, again, the whole point of the Public Utilities Board is to deal with these very complex issues and to set rates. I am wondering if the Member opposite is suggesting that we could do without the Public Utilities Board. I would be interested in that conversation.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

There is a line of jokes that I could go down with that point, but I will not go there. This is a serious matter. What I am talking about here is accountability and transparency, which happens to also be the Minister responsible for Public Engagement and Transparency. I mean, we are talking about a lot of money. This is an item that affects us all. It affects individuals, businesses, homeowners, and they do not seem to have any clear answer of what goes on with this power corporation. I appreciate that the Minister keeps saying he can --

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Member for Yellowknife North, what is your line of questioning?

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

We want to see the Power Corporation come in with the Minister and witnesses and be able to defend their annual case, and it seems like he is not going to be able to do that. Is the Public Utilities Board the one that has to now come here and speak on behalf of the Power Corporation for their capital planning and their operating and maintenance costs every year?

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

The Public Utilities Board has an exhaustive process which I understand costs the Power Corporation approximately $2 million each time there is a GRA application. I do not think there is any point, frankly, in duplicating that sort of detail of information before a standing committee. As I said, we are prepared to appear before committee and, in a general sense, go through the details of our plans for the future, but to go through the sort of detail that the Member opposite seems to be alluding to, well, I suggest that is properly before the PUB.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, does the Public Utilities Board answer questions with regard to the expenditures on generators that are to replace old infrastructure at the Power Corporation? Because, if the answer is yes, then that is who I will start to go to to ask those questions and not the Power Corporation. He knows where I am going with this. It is not about rate increases. It is also the numerous other questions that the public deserves answers on, and they have to sit before us, the public representatives, and answer those questions. No further questions, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. I am not getting where we need to go.

Question 853-18(2): Scrutiny Of Northwest Territories Power Corporation Operations And Expenditures
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The time for oral questions has expired. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to Commissioner's opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation.

Tabled Document 443-18(2): Proposed Mandate Of The Government Of The Northwest Territories, 2016-2017 (Revised) - With Tracked Changes
Tabling of Documents

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I wish to table to following two documents entitled "Strengthening Our Core – 2016-2017 Annual Report of the Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation and the Northwest Territories Power Corporation," and "Proposed Mandate of the Government of the Northwest Territories, 2016-2017 (Revised) - with Tracked changes." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 443-18(2): Proposed Mandate Of The Government Of The Northwest Territories, 2016-2017 (Revised) - With Tracked Changes
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Tabled Document 445-18(2): Letter From The NWT Association Of Communities To The Minister Of Municipal And Community Affairs Regarding Governance Training And Elections, Dated September 19, 2017
Tabling of Documents

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Mr. Speaker I wish to table the following two documents entitled "Status of Women Council of the Northwest Territories Annual Report 2016-2017," and a "Letter from the NWT Association of Communities to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs Regarding Governance Training and Elections, dated September 19, 2017." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 445-18(2): Letter From The NWT Association Of Communities To The Minister Of Municipal And Community Affairs Regarding Governance Training And Elections, Dated September 19, 2017
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Minister of the Environment and Natural Resources.