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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you for that. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the response. I know, for sure, Mr. Marchiori is very familiar with this line of questioning. In my past position as a city councillor, we often grilled him with regard to our fleet management, but one of the things that would be nice to see, somewhere in the budget, the department's list of fleet so that we can kind of get a sense of the lifespan of each one of these kind of vehicles and what kind of rotation they are on, just so that we get a better perspective from a budgetary perspective, I guess, on how we manage our fleet. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If that is the type of information that committee would like to see as we go before committee, debating the capital budget before we get to the floor, maybe we can provide that type of information rather than having it here, if that would be the wish of committee. That way, they will have a general idea of the life cycle during the debate of the capital estimates before we bring them on the floor, if that works for committee. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Seeing nothing further, I will call this item. Environment and Natural Resources, wildlife, infrastructure investments, $1,009,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Please return to page 16. Environment and Natural Resources, total capital estimates, $2,423,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. This concludes our consideration of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. I want to thank the witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may escort the witnesses from the Chamber. Minister, you may take your usual seat.

Committee, we have next agreed to consider the Department of Lands, which begins on page 55 of the capital estimates. I will turn to Minister Sebert for any opening comments. Actually, you know what? We are not doing opening comments; I just remembered. I will ask Minister Sebert to take his seat at the witness table. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Minister, would you please introduce your witnesses for the record?

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. To my left, I have Brenda Hilderman, director of finance, and to my right, Willard Hagen, deputy Minister.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Committee, we will defer the departmental total until after consideration of the activity summaries, the first of which is on page 56, Informatics Shared Service Centre. First, I have Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the effort that we are putting in with regard to the enterprise licensing and permitting, but we can see here that this is going to be a cross-departmental initiative. Maybe the department can start by explaining a little bit about Lands' role in particular in this, and is it strictly a Lands budget line item, or are all of these other departments also contributing to this enterprise licensing and permitting?

Then, also, where will it be centred? Is this going to be something that is going to be an online thing that is accessible to the public? Is this just interdepartmental improvements? If we can get some elaboration on this particular line item, it would be appreciated. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Just so everyone is on the same page, it is page 57 that contains some of the details that Mr. Vanthuyne just referenced. I will turn to the Minister. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This information system project is a collaborative effort between several departments, including Lands, ITI, ENR, and Finance, and the enterprise licensing and permitting system will use common components to enable them to implement business processes.

Perhaps, with respect to the other portion of the question, I could turn it over to Ms. Hilderman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Hilderman.

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Hilderman

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Informatics Shared Service Centre is one of the activities within Lands and provides services, as the Minister mentioned, to ENR, ITI, and Lands. Initially, this information system capital project was appropriated originally in our 2018-2019 capital estimates, and this is for year two of the two-year project. It is a common platform for licences and permits. Initially, hopefully in this fiscal year, they will implement ten licences and permits, and then another 30 within year two of the capital project, 2019-2020. Once those are in place, it then is a common platform that they will build on that and provide services for other departments to the public through this same common platform. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister, you'd like to add something?

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. The whole purpose of this of course is to reduce costs of maintaining separate systems across departments, and there was a mention of licences and permits. There's quite a number of them from fishing licence to pesticide business permits, so, hopefully, this will lead to a more efficient and less costly system. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the insight with regard to the enterprise licensing and permitting contribution that we're making. Let's just then for a moment jump down for some clarification purposes to "Land Tenure Optimization System." It notes that this is to rationalize five systems that currently handle the land tenure information and processes, and it's going to create a single platform. Can we get a better understanding of what the five systems currently are and how this single platform will manage these five systems? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. The five systems that we currently have do have support challenges, and this system will address this risk by providing a common platform that will support several territorial lands surface, Commissioner's lands surface, oil and gas subsurface, the Mining Recorder's Office subsurface, and the Forest Management Division's surface. Hopefully, this will be at a lower capital cost, addressing issues of cost, and will be a more efficient and less costly system.

Also, I understand that it's a mandate item that we will improve collaboration for easier access to the government programs and services online, so this is part of our Mandate Commitment 533, apparently. So this makes sense quite apart from being a mandate item, makes sense from an economic and user point of view. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Seeing nothing further, I will call this item. Lands, Informatics shared service centre, infrastructure investment, $698,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Please turn to page 58, operations. There's an associated information item on page 59. I'll call the item. Lands, operations, infrastructure investments, $234,000. Does committee agree?