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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Could people please put their hands up a little higher. All those opposed? The motion is defeated.

---Defeated

Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, during this review of Bill 20, the standing committee on government operations identified concerns with the readability of subclause 15(1), the one that was just discussed. To improve readability of this provision, I would like to move a motion to amend Bill 20.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Go right ahead.

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Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think some pinks have been provided. I will need my copy.

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Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move that Bill 20 be amended by deleting subclause 15(1) and substituting the following:

15.(1) The mandate of the Ombud is to investigate any decision or recommendation made, or any act done or omitted, by an authority or by any officer, employee, or member of an authority in the exercise of any power or duty conferred on that person or body by enactment, that

(a) relates to a matter of administration; and

(b) aggrieves or may aggrieve any person or body of persons in the person's or its personal capacity.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. To the motion. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Mr. Chair, I move that the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole leave the chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Testart, could you please clarify? Would you like me to leave or would you like to report progress?

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Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Mr. Chair, the motion is for the Chair to leave the chair, so yes, it would be to leave. No reporting of progress.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

There is a motion on the floor. Please give me a moment while I confer with the clerks. Committee, we will take a brief recess while this is sorted out. Thank you.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. I call Committee of the Whole back to order. Mr. Testart, your motion is out of order. There is no such motion referenced in the rules. We are still dealing with the motion put forward by Minister Abernethy. To the motion. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart Kam Lake

My apologies, Mr. Chair. I move the chair rise and report progress.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. There is a motion to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour, please raise your hands so I can see. All those opposed, please give me a show of hands. The vote is tied, so we will not report progress.

---Defeated

We will continue. To the motion. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you. I believe that this motion improves the language that was originally in the act. It clarifies the issues that we were concerned about. For those reasons, I feel that the motion should be supported by all Members, but will be supported by Cabinet in any case.

As I said, there were issues that I raised with respect to the prior motion. We believe that this clarifies some of those issues. That is why we are supporting it. Thank you.