Thank you. Mr. Goldney.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think that that commentary on the program is still accurate. Nevertheless, we do see the pilot as a success, as it is teaching us things along the way. The goal of the work under way is to evolve and direct our resources into something that is a more sustainable model, again learning from some of those lessons that we have experienced through the pilot project. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Kieron Testart Kam Lake
Thank you. I appreciate that, and I do support this kind of -- this, the Wellness Court, the DVTO Court, they are all very worthwhile alternative methods of supporting people in the system. I don't want to give the impression that I don't support the program, but what I am getting at is that I agree with you. I would like to see us take this out of the pilot and move forward. It sounds like we are in that trajectory, so that is a good thing. That is all I have. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Chair. My colleagues had some questions about the integrated case management pilot project, but I do want to ask some questions about Victim Services if I can.
I note that I think there was a review done back in 2013-2014. I know I raised this issue in the House as well as with the Minister, and I understood that there was going to be a more comprehensive review of Victim Services in 2019-2020. Can the Minister confirm that and let me know what level of resources have been allocated for that Victim Services review? Thanks, Mr. Chair.
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
Yes, thank you. The Member has brought this matter to my attention, and I do have a copy of the report from 2014 on my desk.
The department is currently preparing the scope for a program review of Victim Services. The intent is to have a contractor in place early in 2019-2020 and a final report later in the year. This is important. This is an important area, and this report will be a key document to guide us in any future decisions regarding the program and how it is delivered in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Chair. Thanks to the Minister for that. Can the Minister share that document that he was referring to? It was some sort of terms of reference or scope of work for the contractor. Can the Minister commit to share that with the Standing Committee on Social Development? Thanks, Mr. Chair.
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
Yes, I can undertake to do that. I don't know whether the report or the terms of reference have been finalized yet, but, when finalized, we will provide it to the committee or the Member or both.
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The Chair R.J. Simpson
Thank you. For the record, the Minister has committed to providing the Standing Committee on Social Development with the terms of reference once finalized. Is that correct, Minister?
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the Minister for that commitment. What would work even better in our consensus-style government is if the Minister could commit to share it as a draft with the standing committee so that the standing committee might actually have some input into it. This is an area of ongoing interest that I and other Members have raised. Could the Minister commit to sharing a draft with the standing committee in our consensus-style government system? Thanks, Mr. Chair.
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We always like to cooperate with committee, and I think we could meet and provide a draft on a confidential basis. Thank you.
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The Chair R.J. Simpson
For clarification, the Minister is committing to share the draft on a confidential basis with committee. Is that correct, Minister?
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Chair. I want to thank the Minister for that commitment. I take it sincerely, and I am glad to try to work with him on that.
I did have some questions around the A New Day program. I know that when the transition was made from the old program, which was run by a non-profit, it went to a different kind of arrangement for five years with the John Howard Society where, basically, they were contracted to provide counselling services. Can the Minister tell us how well the new approach on the A New Day program is actually working? Thanks, Mr. Chair.
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![Louis Sebert](/media/CACHE/images/polpics/18-louis-sebert/9fc1ff8d936d4d55a6c7b1935d924ccc.jpg)
Louis Sebert Thebacha
Yes, I think I can provide some figures that will assist in understanding where we are at with this program.
I am looking at the number of registrations, which has changed a bit over the years. Now, not all registrations, unfortunately, lead to completions, but in 2013, there were 29; in 2014, 13; in 2015, 37; in 2016, 47; in 2017, 24; and in 2018, 50. Completions is often disappointing: we are zero in 2013-2014; two in 2015; 17 in 2016; five in 2017; and five in 2018.
Now, one thing that I would like to add is that men who are in custody at NSCC can register to meet with the counsellor when he next visits the correctional centre. The NSCC group meets twice weekly.
I sought some more information on this, and I understand that the entire program can be completed by inmates while in custody. I think that that is an enhancement of what was done before, because I don't know if you could do that before.
There seem to be a lot of registrations, and completions are disappointing, frankly. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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