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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any further comments, questions? All right. Thank you, Member for Nunakput. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, I guess, some comments: the community government of Hay River, they are feeling the impact of the gap. The residents are feeling the impact. In Hay River, we have got flooding issues. There are costs associated with that, so we are feeling that, as well. This year, we have been on an 80-day boil-water advisory. We have problems with our water treatment plant, which looks like it may have to be replaced. We have trouble with our water line that is extended, I think, 8 kilometres out into the lake. There are a number of issues there. I know our infrastructure is aging. We need highway rescue equipment. We have talked about it for years, and funding never seems to come.

When I listen to the conversations here, I am under the impression that we are not going to solve this in our time. We are going to continue this conversation next year and the year after and the year after. When I hear that and I look at that, I wonder where the federal government is because, really, at the end of the day, that is where we have to go when we are in a bind. I would like to ask the Minister: what discussions have we had with the federal government to try to close that gap so that our communities can operate properly? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

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Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Earlier this year, I did have a conversation with the federal Minister and just speaking about the underfunded communities, as well, and brought this to their attention. However, going forward, I do hear the Member's frustration, looking at his riding, as well, and the amount of significant work that needs to be done there. I am going to revert the question over to Ms. Eleanor Young to give a more current update. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister Young.

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Young

Thank you, Madam Chair. Absolutely. As the Minister said, every opportunity we can, particularly with Infrastructure Canada, we have lobbied for many years to have additional funding to the territory beyond the per-capita approach that has been used in the provinces, we have called it a base-plus approach, so that there can be additional funding. We have always, even internally within the GNWT, how much comes to communities versus how much goes to territorial infrastructure is a conversation every time there is a new funding pot. However, we have been very successful getting a lot of money over the last number of years, and we need to continue to do that.

I am happy to say, specific to the example that you raise, we actually had staff support the Town of Hay River to do a review of their water plant, and they actually did a presentation to council earlier this week and are starting to support the town in writing an application for the Investing in Canada Plan. We are just in the process of rolling out an application process for $82 million that is left in our Investing in Canada Plan money for community governments. They all received application forms over the last couple of weeks, so that is the next opportunity for federal funding that we are trying to support, communities applying for money under that particular program. We do everything we can with any new program coming up to try to get money for communities that fits within whatever priority the federal government has put to the infrastructure program. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think most of the questions and concerns have been raised, but one thing is that, with the way the economy is with COVID, I don't expect the gap to be filled by the residents of the Northwest Territories. Taxes just are not there anymore. Our revenue from mining, et cetera, just is not there. I think that I would urge this government to seriously sit down with the federal government and see what we can do in these times because this is not going to be over next year or the year after, so this is going to be an ongoing thing. We can talk about it. We can spin it whichever way we want, but at the end of the day, we have to find the money from somewhere. It's not going to come from the residents, and it's not going to come from the businesses at this point in time. I would urge that we look at the federal government, and I urge the Minister to move in that direction. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. I did not really hear a question. Just a comment? Okay. Are there any further questions or comments under this activity? Seeing none, I will call the activity. Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations, infrastructure investments, $29 million. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Members. Please return now to the departmental summary found on page 61, Municipal and Community Affairs, 2021-2022 Capital Estimates, $29 million. Mr. Norn.

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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs at this time. Marsi cho, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All in favour? Opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Consideration of department summary has been deferred. Thank you to the Minister and the witness. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may please escort the witness out of the Chamber. Mr. Norn, what is the will of committee?