Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Frame Lake.
Debates of March 2nd, 2021
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. The deputy minister sounds a lot like me four years ago when this was being set up, when we made these suggestions about who should be represented on the committee. It kind of fell on deaf ears with the previous Minister in the 18th Assembly, so I guess I will ask again: is the Minister prepared to work with the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment to look at a more appropriate composition of this committee and how they can report publicly and better engage the public in general? Thanks, Madam Chair.
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Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. We have engaged with Cabinet on this and provided a presentation to committee. We want to get input. I am not going to sit here today and commit to who is going to be on the committee, but we will have that conversation with committee. Thank you.
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. That's great. That's exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate that commitment from the Minister. That's all I have on this one. Thanks, Madam Chair.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
I will call this meeting back to order, committee, and we are going to continue on with the Member for Hay River South.
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to turn to page 259, Marine Transportation Services, and the revenues, marine freight transport. I just want to understand what that entails. Is that deck rate and fuel? Is some of it a difference in private/GNWT? What is that number made up of? Thank you.
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Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. If I can ask, what was the title again? Sorry.
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Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake
Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair. In 2007, the Marine Transportation Services was established. It was an amendment of the Revolving Funds Act, which MTS is a mechanism under which the GNWT, the tug and barge shipping arm, operates, so MTS commands the operations July 1, 2017. If the deputy minister or ADM Brennan would like to speak a little bit more into detail as to what that is? Thank you.
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Brennan
Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. In addition to what the Minister said, I can confirm that the marine freight transport is the transport of fuel and that cargo. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. What is the breakdown of the revenue there between freight, deck freight, and fuel? Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. Under the expenditures for the fuel services, fuel services is estimated at $23,500,000, and the shipyard terminal operations are $8.7 million. Fuel is predominantly the majority of the budget for this revolving fund. Thank you.
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. What I was asking is: the revenues under marine freight transport, like the $27 million, how much of that is received for providing deck freight services and how much is received for fuel deliveries; also, if they have the numbers for private fuel deliveries versus for GNWT's own use? Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. All I have with me today is just the information on some of the main estimates on previous years and how we decreased some of our funds and increased. However, I am going to turn it over to ADM Brennan to speak a little bit more in detail for cost breakdown. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Brennan
Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. In terms of the first question that I heard, I think for the $27 million, approximately $5.4 million is related to the cargo, $13.8 million is related to fuel delivery, and an additional $7 million is fuel sales. Fuel sales is an item more where you ship fuel on behalf of Imperial Oil to Norman Wells, so we essentially take possession of the fuel in Hay River and sell it back to Imperial Oil back in Norman Wells. Thank you, Madam Chair.