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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

So we've identified $175 million for the recovery. Part of that is with mitigation. We're also working with the federal government to see what they are able to provide us, and we're also working with other funding sources -- or trying to find other sources to address this. So as I said on the floor today, we're working with the federal government, we're working with the town, we're working with the K'atlodeeche First Nations. So we're working together with them. But we also have to work with the federal government to be able to provide funding to us towards that. So the mitigation, again, the Town of Hay River's come to us with a list. We've reached out to the federal government. We're working with the federal government on that. We're also -- as I said, we have -- we set out a budget of $175 million approximately for this flood recovery for the town of Hay River and K'atlodeeche First Nation. And so we have money right now. And as for the mitigation part, the funding we're trying to find other sources as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair, and I appreciate that answer. I guess when it comes to mitigation, can you give me a sense, I guess, when you're talking about mitigation, exactly what it entails. Are we just talking about mitigation for the, you know, for the homeowner, like lifting their homes? Or are we talking something wider, like I say, berming and the -- maybe the buy back of land, those type of things? Thank you.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

So yes, so it's a long list. If the committee wants it, we can provide that list. There's -- like, there is -- everything the Member talked about is part of it. It's lifting homes, moving infrastructure within the homes up to another floor, looking at, you know, buy back of land and other items as well. So if that's what we have to do, then that's part of the mitigation plan process. So there is a long list and if the Member wishes to see the long list -- it's not exhaustive. It could be -- again, we could provide you what we have. But there could be exemptions or other stuff that we haven't thought about, and as we move -- it's a living document so it could be added. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I appreciate that. And I would like to see that list in case I can add anything to it because, you know, when we talk mitigation, you know, we're talking about within the boundaries of Hay River and K'atlodeeche First Nation. But there's also things that we possibly could be doing outside that -- those boundaries. So that's kind of what I'm looking for, is making sure that the department is doing a -- you know, an all-encompassing assessment of how to mitigate any future damage. So, yeah, I guess I'll have further conversations with the Minister on this anyways. So I guess that's more of a comment. Thank you.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Are there any further comments under the Municipal and Community Affairs? Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, it would have been nice to have seen the numbers since the formula is based on per capita and needs. And, you know, like I've said it before, in my region alone, you know, like we have a lot of aging infrastructure. Our water pipes need to be replaced. So we have a lot of buildings that are aging that needs attention as well. And it would be nice to see, you know, the numbers, how much money is going spend -- going to be spent in my region based on per capita. There's over 2,000 people in my region alone, and in Behchoko alone is 1,900. And the smallest community is less than 200. So it would be nice to see the numbers so that -- so we can share this with our leaders. Thank you.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

The same thing with YK North, we'll give you the information. We'll provide that information to you. You will have it. And it can be made public. As I told the Member previously, yes, there's aging infrastructure. Municipal governments makes decisions on their capital plan. They make decisions, and we support their decisions on how we do it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yes, I understand about that being part of a community government council, yes, I do -- I do understand about how that we can -- you know, how to -- how to spend the money, where to spend the money. But I'm just saying that right now that in my region we have major infrastructure issues. And it's -- even to change the waterline that's aging especially in Edzo that's connected to the school, you know, that's going to cost, like, over $10 million. And I don't know -- like, that's why I'm saying it would be nice to see the numbers, like, how much money will be allocated to my region. And it says here regional operations $29 million. So -- and it's going to 33 communities. That's why I -- it would be nice to see -- would have been nice to see the actual number. But it's good that he's going to provide it to us, so thank you.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

And I apologize if the -- since this Member isn't going to be there, we'll make sure this is, again, for future, this will be provided in every capital plan so people are aware and so they have opportunities to look at it before us being in front of the committee. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Justice - Assembly - Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further comments under Municipal and Community Affairs?

Seeing none, Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations, infrastructure investments, $29,160,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Members. Please return now to the department summary found on page 68, Municipal and Community Affairs, 2022-2023 Capital Estimates, $29,160,000. Member for Frame Lake.

Committee Motion 299-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Municipal and Community Affairs- Deferral of Department (page 68), Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs at this time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 299-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Municipal and Community Affairs- Deferral of Department (page 68), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. The motion is on the floor and being distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 299-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 - Municipal and Community Affairs- Deferral of Department (page 68), Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Thank you, committee, and thank you to the Minister. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witness from the Chamber. What's the wish of committee? Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Madame la Presidente, I move that the chair rise and report progress.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

May I please have the report of Committee of the Whole? Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.