This is page numbers 4953 - 5010 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was know.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $5,296,000. Does committee agree?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Committee, we will turn to pages 9 and 10. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, negative $21,288,000. Does committee agree?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Department of Environment and Natural Resources, capital investment expenditures, energy and strategic initiatives, not previously authorized, $51,227,000. Does committee agree? Mr. O'Reilly.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yeah, so there's 15 -- about $15 million that's not going to be spent on so-called Slave Geological Province All-Weather Road Highway Environmental Assessment. So how does that affect the timeline for that project? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister.

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Chair, at this point, as Members may be aware, there is a process underway right now for a regional strategic environmental assessment. I think -- I hope I haven't misstated the proper title for it, but it's a process that goes through the board. So there is a delay but for that process -- in order for that other process to take place. There's certainly, I think, some hope that as that process is underway that it will actually -- may ultimately actually benefit that overall region and whatever the future project might look like. So while the specific money that is here for environmental assessment is pushed now into 2023-2024, again, pending what may be happening in this other process here first, that might well actually ultimately help catch up to where a longer term vision of the project might want to be at. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly, anything further?

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm glad the clock got started there. Yeah, well, I'm glad the Minister volunteered all of that because that was my next question actually, because in the letter that this government sent to -- I'm not sure exactly. I guess it was probably Minister Vandal about the regional study that the Tlicho government has asked, there was kind of two things that our government mentioned in there. One was that we supported participant funding but they said the other thing was that a regional study shouldn't delay the planning for this road in any way. And that's not what the Minister just said here. So I'm very happy to get that on the record that our government is fine having this road delayed while the regional study is underway and get the results from that first to provide a proper planning context and direction for whether this thing is a good thing or not. So I'm very happy to get that information from the Minister, and I look forward to GNWT actually formalizing that position and putting it forward to the federal minister. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister.

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I guess I don't have any other comments to make. I know the departments are working -- all the departments are working together on that right now, and I don't know the current state of the matter that's before the board. But again, as I have said, I think we're all quite hopeful that subject to how that unfolds, which is out of the GNWT's hands, that it will ultimately be for the benefit of that region. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mr. O'Reilly.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. Well, whether it's to the benefit of the region or not that's I think part of the question, is that the regional study needs to grapple with is, you know, whether you want a road or whether you want to have caribou. And especially at a time where the caribou numbers are so low with the Bathurst herd, and I just don't think that they can handle this kind of disturbance. But that's the kind of issues that the regional study needs to deal with and to figure out if this sort of thing would actually be a net benefit at the end of the day. But, again, I'm very happy to hear that the Minister of Finance say that our government doesn't have a problem delaying this project so that the regional study can be done. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister, I'll allow you to comment if you so wish.

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm really wearing more of an ITI hat when I'm speaking about the project, and ENR actually is the lead on it. So this probably isn't the right time or place to get into the weeds of what may or may not be happening on that front with the board. Again, as I said, Mr. Chair, I know our government is at that table, as is the Tlicho government. I believe other Indigenous governments are there. And we do need to see what that process -- how that process unfolds. We're not the lead. The board is leading that process. So I think all parties see potential benefit from it, and we'll see where that gets us. The money that's here is pushed to 2023-2024. And the Member asked me if that's going to delay the whole project. Mr. Chair, again, it's my hope that it does not and that the regional assessment process does not either. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi for that. Mr. O'Reilly.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Well, thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that, but I'm not going to continue the debate here. I got the Minister on record, and now I'm going to hold our government to account for that. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Any further comments in this section? Just to make a correction on the department. It's the Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, energy and strategic initiatives, not previously authorized, $51,227,000. Does committee agree?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Okay. The ones that are awake are talking. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, negative $72,515,000. Does committee agree? Did you hear anything?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Thank you, committee. Do you agree that you have concluded consideration of Tabled Document 747-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2022-2023? Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I move that consideration of Tabled Document 747-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2022-2023, be now concluded and that Tabled Document 747-19(2) be reported and recommended as ready for further consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair.