This is page numbers 3559 - 3602 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was know.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am -- you know, I'm more in support of having these positions in the smaller communities and building capacity at the smaller community level. We are in a different I want to say time of this government where we see Indigenous groups coming forward and looking at their self-government agreements. I look at this as an opportunity if they were wanting to draw down jurisdiction, I'm wanting to entertain a pilot project with them as well too. But the difference of having the LHOs, those are specifically for public housing and those administrations at the smaller community level, but the district offices are emergencies and programs and they do support the LHOs as well too. But in our review, we will be looking at the whole -- the whole function of how we deliver housing throughout the territory. But I could reassure the Member that the local housing authorities are an asset to our delivery, and they are an asset to how our program is being delivered. They are the face-to-face for us at the ground level. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. Can I get an explanation of -- I see that the regional offices are responsible for maintenance, but I know that the LHOs are also responsible for maintenance. And, you know, if I'm in a housing unit and I want something -- want some maintenance, which one of those two should I go to in which scenarios? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And like I had said, the local housing authorities are for public housing. The district offices are programs and maintenance. So if you're a homeowner, you would go to the district offices. They provide the support for the LHOs and the LHOs are strictly are for public housing. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Member.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And then I -- also in this kind of realm of who does what, there's a capital plan coming forward and this year's -- this budget's capital plan doesn't build any new houses, but it does quite a bit of major retrofits. My understanding is that major retrofits is the decided by headquarters in their capital plan, and then minor maintenance would be the responsible of the LHO. Can I just get a understanding of when maintenance belongs to an LHO verse would have to go through the headquarters capital planning process. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Mr. Chair, the maintenance would be for the public housing units but if we have something like a boiler needs to be fully replaced, we have a major freeze-up where we need the certification of plumbers and OBMs to be in the communities, then we're looking at the major retrofits compared to -- sorry, I forgot the other term. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member. Ms. Nokleby? No? Ms. Semmler?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

I want to ask questions under the next section.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

There's no further questions. Okay, no further questions. So there's additional information on page 390 which is lease commitments. Any questions? Ms. Semmler.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My questions are, you know, during the beginning of the week I talked about in my Member's statement on the amount it cost to lease the units in the one apartment building, and then looking at the lease commitments in the Inuvik for the housing, there's 36 units and one unit -- on one line, and then there's ten units on the next line. And that total for the two is about $970,000. And it says the 2022-2023 main estimates. But then it says future lease payments, and there's 20 -- 2.9 million and .98 million, which is a total of 3.8 -- 8 million. Can you clarify this year, is that our total cost for those 45 units that we're leasing? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have vice president Jim Martin respond. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Mr. Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, so those two line items, the current year annual operating costs for those in 2022-2023 is 726,000 as noted, and 245,000 for the second building. The amount shown in future lease payments is the projected total cost over the life of those leases. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Member.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. So can you clarify what's the total life of those leases? If that's a year by year? Does it end at our fiscal year? Is this a five year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have vice president Jim Martin respond. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Mr. Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the first item, it's under five years. And the second one, it'd be about approximately four years. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Member.