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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I'd be remiss not to mention ORC. I'd just like to know what is happening with that contract, if it's coming up for renewal or is there an extension on it? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, my understanding it was just recently renewed but I want to get clarification in terms of, you know, as MTS is going through a governance review model and just to see how that affects some of our contracts. So if I can have Mr. Brennan speak to where we're at in terms of the contract details. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Brennan.

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Brennan

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, so the ORC contract I believe was signed in 2021. I do believe it was a three-year contract so that won't expire until 2024. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to change up here a bit, and I want to talk about the -- or the ferries. And I'd like to talk I guess about specifically the Abraham Francis. My understanding is that vessel is only rated at 40,000 kg so this limits the number of loads -- the weight and loads coming across whereas you got the Louis Cardinal, which is closer to Inuvik, and it's rated for 64,000 kg.

So my understanding is that -- is it possible -- my understanding it is possible to lengthen the Abraham Francis which would then allow you to increase that to 64 which will make it a lot better to -- a lot easier to move cargo across. And so I'm just wondering if any work or any assessment is being done to make that happen? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm going to ask Mr. Brennan to speak a little bit more about some of the technical questions in that question because I don't fully understand what it means from going from 45 to 67. So I'm going to see if Mr. Brennan can help me out here. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Brennan.

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Brennan

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, so the Member is correct, there's definitely different weight limits on the Abraham Francis, which is a cable ferry across the Peel River. And I'm kind of concerned because I had a conversation about this yesterday and now I'm wondering if he's been listening in on our conversations, but.

We are looking at extending the ferry. We put in some more styrofoam in last year just to increase the buoyancy of that vessel, and we want to extend the ferry by I do believe it's 20 to 30 feet. Unfortunately right now we don't have any funding so we are seeking funding. We're trying to come up with creative ways to extend that ferry to allow our super-Bs to go in one load rather than to have to decouple the fuel trucks and go back again.

So the Member is correct, there is some challenges with that ferry. We do want to extend it. We think we can extend it by X number of feet and get 25 more years out of that ferry as well. So if we can identify the funding, we will actually proceed with that project as soon as we can. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And no, I wasn't in the conversation, and I was just talking to some people up around Inuvik, so. And they just raised that question to me.

The other thing about the -- you know, we talk about going green. We talk about, you know, electric conversion. So, yeah, I look at the four ferries that we have out there and the Abraham Francis ranis probably being the smallest. I would like -- you know, it would be interesting if we were to possibly look at turning that into -- converting to electric because it would do two things. It would reduce fuel consumption thus reducing greenhouse gases. So is that something that the department has actually looked at, either for that ferry or any other of the ferries? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. I don't understand what the question -- I'm going to ask Gary to speak to that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Brennan.

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Brennan

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, we actually have looked at the electrification of the Abraham Francis ferry. Some of the challenges we do have at some of our camps is a lack of electricity and power hookups at our sites, but we have looked at the electrification of that one. I'm not quite sure what the result of that was, though. But I -- we continue to look at that there.

One of the things that we look at actually is a lot of the federal funding that is coming out is green funding and in replacement of a ferry, that might be the way we'll have to go to get monies through the green funding to reduce -- well, to reduce GHGs but that's where the funding seems to sit these days so we continue to look at that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, the other thing about the ferries too is, like, they are all aged and, you know, and to keep them up to I suspect Transport Canada regulations is probably fairly cumbersome and I suspect costly, especially if you're using, you know, southern firms to do the work.

So, you know, is there any plans in the future, I guess, to either build a new ferry or do any really major retrofits? My understanding is that maybe we continue to do retrofits as I -- when I go through the budget I see that. So I'm just wondering, you know, kind of where we're at with that as they kind of age out? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We continue to do retrofits. We do that now with some of our ferries. And I do agree with the Member that we do have aging infrastructure and, you know, we continue to work with the feds to be able to look at replacing these, perhaps from single hull to double hull which may perhaps be a requirement going forward in the future. But at this point, that's not the intent other than to just continue with the retrofits. It is quite costly and, you know, we all know that we're working within a deficit right now. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I just have a small comment or question to ask around -- I'm really glad to see that there's been the increase in positions for the occupational health and safety section here, and I know that that's the result of one new position in a region, which I think is great, and I guess I'd just like to urge the Minister or see if there are plans for one of these positions in each of the five regions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, it was hard enough to get just one, let alone five in each of the regions. But I mean, we recognize that this is safety. They are responsible for the department's occupational health safety, which includes all the national standards for various occupations that is throughout the departments. So at this time, we're just, you know, recognizing that we need to expand and I'm just happy that we were able to get one. Thank you, Madam Chair.