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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, I appreciate that. And I think we're both -- me and the deputy minister are both speaking probably about the same pathfinder position in our concerns.

I'm glad to hear the Minister say that she is sitting down regularly with other department -- departments and talking about -- or her department is talking about collaborative or issues that span all departments as, you know, we've talked a lot about the silos. And I guess where I'm going with this, and I have concern, is that it is times to me where the economy or business is being slowed down by people in departments that are, you know, pushing personal agendas and, you know, not working really faster trying to facilitate things, and it really concerns me at times that that voice is shouting out the voice of the business community and the business sector and not always truthfully. So I just want to say that I strongly encourage that conversation to continue, and I don't think that our land should be sacrificed for parks and tied up in that manner. And I just want to say that now because I think there's a real battle that seems to be happening between the two departments. We can have protected areas without tieing up resource extraction or resource potentials, and it should be the Indigenous governments' voices that make that determination. Thank you. More of a comment.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Are there any further questions under this section? Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to talk about, and I guess Indigenous-owned business and how, you know, management, how the department I guess deals with it. Because, you know, we do a number of reviews for various -- on various topics. And I would like to ask, I guess, the Minister has there ever been a review that's taken place to look at the treatment of Indigenous-owned business in the NWT and, you know, in how they are -- you know, how they're treated when they are accessing funding or service -- services and other programs with the department and to ensure that -- because I guess I'm wondering if we -- if these -- if the department takes a culturally, I guess, appropriate look at the way they are providing service to Indigenous-owned business owners. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of ITI.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. So Madam Chair, there's not differentiated tracking of, say for example, various seed monies or other funding pools that are directed exclusively or solely to an Indigenous versus non-Indigenous Northwest Territories government. And Madam Chair, not to deviate too much but that is going to what's happening in the procurement review and the definition of what is a northern business and the definition of what is an Indigenous business. And I've certainly heard different versions and opinions on what that is and what that should be. So it's difficult to track what you haven't defined, and that is some of the work of happening -- happening in the procurement review right now, is to in fact come to a shared agreement as to what those definitions might be. At that point, we may well be able to better track it, and then I'd be in a different position to answer the question at a later time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I'd ask the Minister, you know, to give it some thought and consider conducting a review because, you know, that deals with just Indigenous-owned businesses and the issues that they run into. Because I have a feeling that the results, while they would be very surprising to the department and -- because, you know, I get a lot of calls from, you know, owners of a business, and mostly Indigenous; I don't get a lot of calls from, you know, non-Indigenous business owners, so. And so I think it would be a worthwhile exercise just to get -- get their point of view. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of ITI.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I mean, there's been -- that's really the work that ITI is generally responsible for, is to ensure that we are providing an opportunity and a place for the business community to come and share their thoughts. So happy to certainly take that and think more about what is out there, what information's out there. I mean, there are Indigenous business coalitions, Indigenous business associations and, you know, Indigenous business boards, etcetera. So there are resources out in Canada, whether they're present in the Northwest Territories or not, and maybe there's a role for them. So again, a lot of questions there, and I'm happy to continue having that conversation. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can the Minister just talk a bit about the occupational health and safety program and give me, I guess, a -- a quick study on what it entails. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of ITI.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. So Madam Chair, I -- the overall occupational health and safety plan and coordination for GNWT-wide is happening over in the Department of Finance, which I don't have in front of me right now. But for the sake of what's happening specifically in ITI, let me turn that to the deputy minister, please.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Strand.

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Strand

Thank you, Madam Chair. So yes, obviously occupation, health and safety is first and foremost for the Department of ITI. We have one position dedicated to this that we funded from within. I think it's probably been about the last four years at this point. And you know, it's really super important because, you know, we do have some higher risk areas, such as parks and our geological survey, that require extra attention to protocols and standard operating procedures. So that person oversees that and does regular visits into the regions as well. We do know that in the coming year, all -- we will be updating our plan. So that is a goal that that work will start next fiscal. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Okay, I just want to turn to, I guess, the active positions and could I get a sense of, you know, how many are P1s and how many are P2s, P3s? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of ITI.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't -- oh no, I think we do have the breakdowns here. But let me see, Nina Salvador might have that right at her fingertips, Madam Chair. So maybe let me direct that there, please.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Strand.

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Strand

Thank you, Madam Chair. So yes, ITI currently has 180 staffed positions of which 29 percent are Indigenous aboriginal; 12 percent are Indigenous non-aboriginal. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And my colleague talked a bit about succession planning, and I guess I'd just like to follow up on that. And, you know, when I -- like, I'm not sure the numbers, you know, what we have for Indigenous numbers within the corporate management. But when we talk succession planning, are we looking at building -- building up corporate management with additional P1s? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of ITI.