Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you for that. I appreciate that. And I'm sorry if it took me a bit to understand as it is a Friday and I don't feel like I can speak well today. But I think -- I guess my next question would be, then, we talked a lot about the silos and obviously there's a lot of asset management expertise within the Department of Infrastructure. So I'm curious to know a little bit more about would there be -- would this work and the assessment management strategy be being done in conjunction with the Department of Infrastructure, or at least with their expertise feeding into it, or even a review at the end? Thank you very much.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

Thank you. We don't have a formal approach to it. In the past when we started doing asset management, we actually took it from NWT Housing Corporation. So they have an asset management program. And then as we developed, we looked at the asset management programs available across the country and how we could best utilize what's available. So we do that there. We do have some informal conversations that I know have happened in the past but nothing really formalized right now. So it's -- we've taken the tool, used it, and again I guess our -- it comes down to our client, which is our community government, and they're the ones that are able to tell us if we need to expand it, if we need more information, and if we need to, then we do have access to infrastructure available. So right now, no, but we do have it there available. Long answer, sorry.

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you. So that gives me a bit of concern too, because it's my understanding that there wasn't, in the past, great collaboration between the Housing Corporation and Infrastructure and I may have some insider information on how that has played out, even in this Assembly. So, you know, it -- to me, it seems like quite a waste and a shame that we wouldn't be utilizing -- or at least having them reviewing these things. And I get that it's very much the communities driving it, that's all great, but, you know, to just flip that over at the end of if all and say hey, does this make sense? You have asset management people in Infrastructure that are then, you know, dealing with things in communities like -- you know, I know I'm aware that the hospital in Inuvik's pellet boiler had they been more smart about it wouldn't have made it so that it can only be loaded by super-Bs that can't then back into that space so there's an extra step now of offloading from super-B pellets to smaller vehicles to then fill up the hopper. So there's things like that where I just feel like that extra set of eyes. And I know I'm just reiterating what I just said, and I hear the Minister's commitment to doing that collaboration, but I think it really -- I just can't stress how key I think that is. And if we talk about breaking down silos, why -- why would we go elsewhere before we look internally to see if we have help? Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

I'll start, and then I'll turn to the deputy minister.

So first and foremost, when we -- this is -- and again, this is dating me. So I've been around for a while. With the asset management program, it was a Housing program that they had and we worked with Housing to -- and then we worked with the community to adapt it. We've now gone from there to another program better suited for the communities. But as in the relationship with Infrastructure and that there, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you, Madam Chair, with your permission.

Thank you. Deputy minister Ms. Gareau.

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you for that. Yeah, and I appreciate the Minister clarifying that it's not still the same Housing Corporation program that it was to begin with, that there has been significant changes there.

I appreciate also what the deputy minister is saying and yes, it comes down to, yeah, if it is -- you know, I'm not thinking about the fact that it is their property versus us coming in and doing so and, of course, there would be more collaboration just in a small community because everybody -- everybody does know each other.

And I think -- I'd just add that I -- I think that MACA is a department that I know really nothing about in my prior life to coming into this House and so, like, I wouldn't know who the engineers are from MACA which, you know, I know all the engineers in Infrastructure and other departments. So I mean, I guess for me, I would ask that maybe at some point I can just come meet some of your engineers and maybe get a better feel for what's going on there. Thank you.

Thank you. Are there any further questions for community operations? Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. On page 339, in the program detail, program management, it's going up $130,000, and I would like to know why. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

Thank you. Sorry, which line?

It's on our -- on page 339, the program management.

I'd turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

Thank you. Deputy minister.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Okay, thanks, Madam Chair. So the cost of this audit, does that come out of the money that the federal government gives us, or are we paying for the audit ourselves? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

Thank you. From the federal government. Thank you.