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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Doolittle.

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Doolittle

Mahsi, Madam Chair. So the coroner is independent of the department, of government so those -- and they are recommendations so we don't put teeth to them. They are recommendations. But we certainly communicate with them and work with them and do our best to support them, recognizing that they are independent. Mahsi, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further questions from Members for service to the public?

Seeing none, Justice, service to the public, operations expenditure summary, 2022-2023 Main Estimates, $4,769,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Committee, there are additional information items from pages 304 to 306. Does any Members have any questions with regards to those information items?

Okay, seeing no further questions we will now return to the departmental summary found on page 275. Okay, so Justice, operations expenditure, total department, 2022-2023 Main Estimates, $137,054,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

Committee Motion 195-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 Justice - Deferral of Department, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Madam la Presidente. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Justice at this time. Mahsi, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

The motion is in order. To the motion?

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Consideration of Department of Justice, 2022-2023 Main Estimates, operating expenditures, total department, is deferred.

Thank you, Minister. And thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

What is the wish of committee?

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Committee wishes to continue with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Okay, thank you. We will take a short recess and then resume with MACA.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

I now call Committee of the Whole back to order. Committee, we have agreed to consider Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023. Does the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs have any opening remarks?

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes, I do. Thank you, Madam Chair.

I am pleased to present the 2022-2023 Main Estimates for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Overall, the department's estimates propose an increase of $1.972 million or 1.6 percent over the 2021-2022 Main Estimates. These estimates support the mandate objectives for the department while continuing to meet the GNWT's fiscal objectives to prioritize reasonable and strategic spending.

Highlights of these proposed estimates include:

  • Initiative funding increases of $922,000 for community governments and $507,000 for ten relief workers and associated salary and benefits for NWT 9-1-1 service;
  • A forced growth increase of $331,000 in the proposed budget is to provide for grants in lieu of property tax for tax-based communities; and,
  • Finally, there is a total increase of $212,000 in other adjustments, which is the net impact of an increase of $123,000 to provide for MACA's administration of federal investment in Canada Infrastructure Plan; an increase of $445,000 for the collective agreement increases with the Union of Northern Workers; and a decrease of $356,000 in travel budgets.

These estimates continue to support the priorities of the 19th Legislative Assembly and support the vision of the Budget 2022 by supporting the GNWT's mandate objective to reduce the municipal funding gap by $5 million. If approved, this mandate objective will be 83 percent fulfilled for a total investment to date of $4.167 million.

Of the total proposed estimates for MACA in 2022-2023, 82.8 percent, or $101.9 million, is intended to support community governments.

That concludes my opening remarks. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Does the Minister wish to bring witnesses into the Chamber?

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes, I do.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Thank you. Minister, would you please introduce your witness.

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

With me today is deputy minister Laura Gareau. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Welcome, deputy minister Gareau. Committee has agreed to forego general comments. Does the committee agree to proceed to the detail contained in the tabled document?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Committee, we will defer the departmental summary and review the estimates by activity summary beginning with community governance, starting on page 334 with information items on page 337. Questions? Member for Yellowknife North.

Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I see there's an increase for assessment services and my understanding is that that's partly because we pay people to do some of the assessment work. And I've asked many questions before and, forgive me, I just fully do not understand the role of MACA verse Lands verse Finance in assessing how much people pay in property tax especially, you know, in not tax-based communities. So I'm going to try and ask a few more questions to help myself understand what's going on here.

And specifically I guess I want to ask, in the Ingraham Trail does it actually matter how much your property is worth for how much you're going to pay in the various taxes and lease fees, or are all of those properties essentially just not meeting the minimum threshold so they pay the same amount? Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. If I understand the MLA's question, it's about the distinction between the taxation role of MACA in doing assessment. So we do do assessment in all communities in the NWT with the exception of the city of Yellowknife. However, we do provide the city with contribution to support their assessment services.

MACA staff do the assessment in the six municipal -- or sorry, in the 21 general taxation communities as well as the hinterland, and the Ingraham Trail is considered part of the general taxation area where MACA does assessment. Thank you. I hope that answered the question.