Thank you. I appreciate that. I guess in my former life, I had a lot more experience dealing with the NWTAC versus LGANT so I'm more familiar with what they do. And I know that the NWTAC has provided technical advice in some ways to the department, specifically around infrastructure, aging infrastructure, permafrost melt, etcetera. I can't think of an area where we would need actually to be increasing those resources. And I'm wondering, you know, what the department is doing to support the NWTAC in building out those types of resources. And succession planning. I can think of some key people involved there that should they decide to not continue on, a huge amount of wealth and knowledge and networking, because I know -- like I said, they've always worked really well with NAPEG and the engineers, so. Maybe the Minister or the deputy minister could speak to that. Thank you.

Deputy minister of MACA. Deputy minister Gareau.

Thank you for that. And again, sometimes I realize I probably should know how some of these things work, but there's a lot of details floating around in my head.

I guess I'm wondering if perhaps through the Minister and the department that we could maybe have a -- I hate to say this to my colleagues -- but a briefing or have a meeting with both of these community -- organizations in order more to -- because I know we've had them come and present to specific committees on -- on certain items, but I think, for me, it would be useful to understand them as an organization as a whole or how they interact and where their wants and needs are as another sort of stakeholder in the game that we don't really have a lot of access to. And because we don't sit on the -- any of the intergovernmental councils, for us to meet those types of people and hear from them could maybe be difficult. Or they're not aware that we're looking for information. So maybe the -- if the Minister could speak to that. Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

Thank you. If committee wants that, we're more than willing to work with committee and NWTAC and LGANT. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. No? Member -- Minister.

We still have three presentations to committee that we still haven't figured -- or scheduled yet. So I apologize, I just want to make sure people are aware that we have three that we're trying to get done. Thank you.

Thank you. You hear that, Member for Yellowknife North? Member for Great Slave.

Yeah no, and I appreciate that. And I don't think that this would be one of those ones that I would even say it needs to be done before the next session or anything. So maybe something more just on the radar, or even perhaps information provided to those -- if they're not already aware, to those groups that of the feedback loop to the standing committee so that they are maybe more aware that they have a role or an avenue in which they can approach us to provide information. And I think sometimes, I just say that in general, we -- a lot of people don't know that they could reach out to a committee clerk and provide information on any topic they want. I think this would be two good organizations to target with that kind of messaging. Thank you.

Thank you, Member. No further questions? School of community governments. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Firstly, I would also like to apologize. I'll get a hold of the Minister, and we'll schedule those briefings as soon as possible.

I'm looking at the contract services budget here, and I'll note that last fiscal's actuals we spent $97,000 out of 868, about 10 percent, of the budget. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's because that was COVID and we didn't deliver a lot of the school of government programming in person as we intended.

Can the Minister just tell us about this upcoming fiscal and whether we're going to spend all of those -- that contract services money? Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

Yeah, so the Member is correct, because of COVID we tried to do things online and that, and some of the biggest challenges is people like in meeting -- or in person meetings, hands on. So, yeah, we feel that we're going to be able to achieve what we said we -- that amount of money moving forward. Thank you.

Thank you. School of community government.

All right, no more further questions? So Municipal and Community Affairs, school of community government, operations expenditure summary, 2022-2023 Main Estimates, $2,955,000. Does committee agree?

Thank you, committee. We will now move on to Municipal and Community Affairs, sport and recreation and youth on page 360, with information items on 361, 362, and 363. Are there any questions?

Seeing no questions -- oh, Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. I know that this activity's usually near and dear to the heart of the Minister but it's the only activity within MACA that we actually see a decline in funding over time. Look at 2021 and, you know, to 2022-2023, and it's a decline of money. Maybe there might have been some bump up for COVID, I don't know. But this activity, the money's actually declining. Can I get an explanation for that? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

Yeah, so if you look at it, COVID relief was at $1.8 million. It's not being available moving forward. So that's where our numbers are. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Okay, thanks, Madam Chair. Yeah, okay, when I look at page 361, I can see the COVID relief funding for 2020-2021 but there's nothing after that. So, you know, why -- then I'm going to go back now to page 360 and, you know, the main estimates for 2021-2022, $5.507 million. And then for 2022-2023, $5.38 million. Why is there still a decline even though the COVID relief money is not being -- there's none in last year or in 2022-2023, why is this declining? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Minister of MACA.