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Tabled Document 657-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastruture Expenditures), No. 1, 2022-2023
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I'm interested to know if the project is on schedule and what is the projected timeline for completion. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. It was on schedule to be complete by November of this year. There had been some talk of even being able to go down and to do some sort of formal opening. At this point, Madam Chair, I'm not sure whether that will still be the case, whether that's due to some delays that may arise out of the flood or not, I will -- when I have an update on that, I will certainly provide it to my colleagues. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, and I guess that's my concern is that with the flood, I know the prime on that contractor, on the plant, is doing quite a bit of work with respect to the flood so I'm just wondering, you know, if they're going to have their resources and the forces -- the workforce there to actually get back and put a hundred percent effort into that plant. So it'd be good to know that, and the Minister can get back to me later on that one.

The second -- another question is talking about equipment and waiting for it. Will any of the equipment be coming from the old FFMC plant, and if so, will there be any additional costs with that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't have the breakdown or the details of the project specifically here. What we have in front of us here, really just information about carryovers or lapses. But, so I don't think so. I will confirm that and let the Member know. But my understanding and recollection of this project is that it was being specially designed. It was specially designed to be CFIA compliant and under the sort of the watchful eyes of Memorial University who had some specialty in this area. So with all that, I know that they were looking largely at new things and new equipment in order to be compliant and in order to meet those specifications. Again, if I'm incorrect, I will certainly update the Member. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

No further questions. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $9,746,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investments expenditures, mineral and petroleum resources, not previously authorized, $2,176,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, tourism and parks, not previously authorized, $2,736,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $14,658,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, committee. Please turn now to page 15 and 16 of the tabled document.

Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized $20,274,000. Does committee agree? Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. So this is, I think, the largest item in the sup, and it seems to be a big area of our spending as well. So I guess the question I want to ask is were there any projects from 2021-2022 or 2020-2021 that were carried over but lapsed and taken out of the, say the capital plan? I'm not sure if I'm making any sense.

Is there stuff that we're not seeing here that it's been lapsed totally, is not going to come back in the books, and it's not part of the capital plan? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, readily we don't have an answer to that question. So we'll certainly make a commitment to go and confirm both with Department of Infrastructure as well as Department of Finance to see if -- my understanding is if there's projects that had been previously carried over and that now are going to be lapsed and not advanced is what I'm hearing. I will go and double check on that, as I said. And yes, yes. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you for that commitment. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yes, thanks, Madam Chair. Yes, and I appreciate the position the Minister's in; this coming as a bit of a surprise. But I think we're trying to figure out to make this more transparent process for everybody.

So one of the issues that I've got with the capital planning, the way that it's been done is, you know, Members sit in the Chamber, they get the capital estimates, they vote on them, most Members vote in favour, even this lowly Member occasionally but not probably in this Assembly. But so Members vote in favour of projects in the capital estimates but then somehow during the course of the year, something doesn't happen and the project doesn't go ahead, and nobody ever finds out about it until maybe it comes back as a zombie project in a sup.

So is there a way in which Members can actually, you know, after they've given approval to capital estimates, there's a capital budget, how do Members find out if projects don't go ahead? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Finance.