Thank you. The motion is on the floor. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. We will sit beyond 6:00 p.m. to conclude this item.

---Carried

And I'll give it to Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The integrated case management -- so you have $830,000. How many clients is that? How many clients are included in that that is being seen for that amount of money.

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

Thank you. So far there have been 691 referrals to the program, and there are 98 active clients. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

So, Madam Chair, so how many staff are actually working within that integrated case management office?

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

Thank you. So in addition to the director, we have four pathfinders and I believe there's also an intern so that would be five. Thanks.

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

Okay. I like the term that was used by the Minister when he was referring to the rental office, "administrative fairness." That's a really incredible term. Administrative fairness is -- with the rental office it's mostly private people that are being told that they have to keep people in their homes over a certain period of time even though it's their home or their rental facility but yet we, as a government, don't follow that whole situation when it comes to NWT Housing. If someone is going to be thrown out, it's thrown out that day, close all the windows and put them on the street and they don't have no home to go to. So where is the administrative fairness when it comes to rental office when it comes to our own government? I want to ask the Minister that. Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

Thank you. So the Residential Tenancies Act dictates the rights and obligations of the different parties involved. I understand there are different provisions for the housing corporation than from private entities. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate time to speak to that legislation; we're not amending the legislation. There's no recommendations in front of me to amend it. So we're talking about the operations of the rental office but as to the value of the act, the efficacy of the act, I am not in a position to speak to it right now. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

I think, Madam Chair, in the future that we have to look at this as a government because, you know, it's our own people that are being thrown out on the street just before Christmas. You know, and I had a case like that where there was a mother and a young girl, and they're couch surfing now. All the windows and everything in that house is all boarded up. No one's going near there. And there's no administrative fairness there. Administrative fairness means administrative fairness for everybody treated equally when it comes to rental or anything else in the territory. And until we come to that point with this government and making sure that our own people are looked after properly, we're not doing our job. Thank you, Madam Chair. That's just a comment. I don't expect the Minister to answer.

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Any other further questions from Members under services to the public? Member for Hay River South.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just a quick question on the rental office. I guess I'm just trying to gauge their workload and how much of that workload is dedicated to dealing with the NWT Housing Corporation or Housing NWT Corporation clients versus private sector? Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

Thank you. I believe the last report I reviewed stated about 60 percent of the workload was related to the housing corporation. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I'm trying -- you know, I'm thinking about, you know, the amount of work that goes into I guess trying to evict somebody. And if the rental officer is putting a lot of time into the housing side of things and nobody's getting -- or nobody's getting evicted or they're -- it drags on forever, I'm just thinking either somehow we've got to make sure that, you know, we're putting the resources where it's actually, you know, resulting in something and whether that's on the private side, make sure that they're looked after first, I guess, and the housing corporation, second, if they're not evicting, then -- and the private sector needs a little bit more, you know, more time, I would like to see, you know -- see that happen. And that's just a comment I guess. I just see a waste of time if we're giving out orders and nothing's being done. And if we're giving out orders to the private sector and they're -- and sometimes that private sector might be an elderly couple who own a house and they have to, you know, they've got somebody in there for, you know, three, four, five, six months; they're waiting for, you know, an order to come down because the rental officer's dealing with maybe housing corporation tenants instead. Thank you.

Thank you. I'll take that as a comment. Are there any further questions under services to the public? Member for Monfwi.

With reference to rental office, I do have some constituents where some other people have been coming to me and saying that they -- their arrears were garnished. But they haven't received any up to date information about how much they still owe. And they said they don't get nothing. They don't know, and they're still being garnished. And they don't -- a lot of these people -- they said they want to know how much they still owe but there's no -- there's no communication coming from the rental office or whoever was supposed to be communicating with them. So I just wanted to know, like, what else is there -- like, how can people who are affected by this get some information?

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

So if the Member's talking about public housing, then I would reserve that question for the housing corporation because the rental office I don't think they deal with those types of issues. Thank you.