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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. And, no, I don't have the information about the number of calls or the number of tips the RCMP are receiving. I'm not sure they would even want to share that with us. But one thing they always do mention, and what I try to impress upon people as well, is that we do need the public to come forward with information. I think that a lot of the times the information that people bring forward is that, you know, there's a drug dealer in that house. Well, everyone knows there's a drug dealer in that house. There needs to be some more information. So it needs to be people who actually have some insight into, you know, maybe that person, that physical house, things like that. So those are the types of people we'd like to step forward and provide us with information so that the RCMP can get search warrants, so that they can begin investigations, they can start building cases. The public support is, you know, extremely important. It's the key to many, many of these investigations. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, you know, I think it is important that the public are engaged as well. And, you know, I think that it's up to the department or up to this government as well to make sure that they're -- the public are aware of, you know, how they can contact the RCMP, how they can provide these tips and, you know, what their role is. You know, they're concerned about liability. They're concerned about backlash and retaliation from some of the -- you know, the people who are, you know, moving the drugs, addicts and that. So, you know, we've got to ensure their safety as well so somehow we've got to be able to, you know, convey that to the public that there's a way to do it and a way to keep safe at the same time. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. And members of the public can always call the local detachment and provide information, a tip. If they are concerned about that, they can also call Crime Stoppers, and that can be anonymous as well. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Anything further, Member for Hay River South?

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

No, thanks.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

All right. So do we have any other questions or comments under the policing services? Seeing none, please turn to page 316.

Justice, policing services, operations expenditure summary, Main Estimates 2023-2024, $56,011,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. We will now move to services to government beginning on page 318, with information items on page 319 and 320. Are there any questions under this section? If there are no questions, please turn to page -- Mr. O'Reilly, Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. The rental office here -- oh sorry, next one.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

So if there's nothing under services to government, please turn to page 318. Justice, services to government, operations expenditure summary, Main Estimates 2023-2024, $13,446,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Now we will move to services to the public beginning on page 322, with information items on page 323. Questions. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. The rental office just, you know, there's actually been a decrease over the last couple years in their funding, and I just continue to get some complaints from constituents about sometimes -- well, both on the rent -- you know, the tenant side but also on the people that own residents or are leasing about how sometimes it takes quite a bit of time for a decision. So do we conduct any kind of regular surveys of wait lists or times for processing applications to the rental office in time, and how long it takes them to render a decision and so on? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. Yes, the Office of the Rental Officer produces an annual report every year, and there are wait times in there. The last report that I reviewed stated that the time from an application to a conclusion can -- the timeline can't be shrunk any further because of the timelines that are required for parties to provide documentation and things like that. So unless we reduce the amount of time that people have to respond and thereby perhaps impacting the -- you know, the administrative fairness, those times won't be reduced. We have seen a significant decline in the amount of time people are waiting since the last government because in the last government there really was a bit of a crisis, but now things are running as quickly as they can while still being fair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, no, thanks for that. I want to go on to integrated case management. And I know that this was the program where they had that return on investment work. And I remarked earlier about how I thought that was a really good study and certainly showed the value of this. But where are we at with expanding this beyond Yellowknife? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. So what the Member I believe is referencing is the integrated case management program. I couldn't recall if he said ISD or ICM. But integrated service delivery is an approach to delivering services. Integrative case management is supposed to be an integrated way to work with people who are accessing a number of different government services. It has essentially turned into a siloed program on its own, not necessarily integrated with the other programs -- or other services. And so we are working with other departments, having some high-level discussions about what we want to do going forward, because this approach, while the ICM team does great work and they are really -- you know, we know they're saving the government money by helping these people they're working with, it's not necessarily what I would call integrated service delivery. So we're looking at how we can take an all-of-government approach on that. And so it's a bit of a -- I would characterize it as a bit of a reset. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, thanks for that. Is part of that review going to look at expanding this function of integrated case management outside of Yellowknife? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Justice.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. So you know, what might happen in the future I can't say. While I'm not necessarily supportive of the idea of taking a siloed program, replicating it elsewhere and saying we're expanding, you know, integrated service delivery, so in that sense I would say no, we're not looking to duplicate this. However, there is a recognition that people do need that sort of one window access. And I've heard a lot about it, I've talked a lot about it, and so we are examining ways that we can make that happen outside of Yellowknife. Thank you.