Agreed.
Debates of March 7th, 2023
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Some Hon. Members
Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Committee, we will defer the departmental summary and review the estimates by activity beginning with corporate management, starting on page 79, with information items on page 80 and 81. Questions. Member for Yellowknife North.
Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. When can we expect to see an organizational chart for the new department? Thank you.
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Dr. Kelly
Thank you, Madam Chair. There's a high-level organization chart that can be found in the main estimates as it is, and we're currently working with staff in the department to go through the organization design. We want to make sure that we do it right the first time. Our hope is that we'll have that -- the majority of it done before April 1st but there will be some optimization that occurs into the new year. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I guess it's my hope that before we approve the budget for this new department, MLAs would be able to see some sort of -- even if it's the draft before April 1st, detailed organizational chart. I'm going to drill down a little bit more into some questions about that.
Can someone explain to me how we go about deciding -- you know, presumably I'm looking at this, there's obviously duplications. You can only have one director of finance, you know, and one manager of comms or policy or how you go about deciding and when you will decide who of the duplicate positions gets the job? Thank you.
Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Dr. Kelly
Thank you, Madam Chair. We're currently working with human resources to determine and look at this process. This has been an ongoing process where folks have been involved from the department. It's unlikely that there will be a detailed organizational design fully implemented before April 1st. We're looking at making sure that the assistant deputy ministers and the directors are in place. But this is an HR process and will follow the HR rules regarding this. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Yeah, thank you. You know, I get we're probably not going to finish everything up. But can someone just explain to me -- I mean, there's certain positions where clearly -- or it seems to me come April 1 you absolutely have to decide, you know, who is the superintendent in a region. To just have two people saying they are this regional superintendent for ECC seems a recipe for disaster. So, you know, how -- can someone just explain to me how we decide that? Is it a public competition, do we -- does the deputy minister and the Minister appoint one of the two? Could anyone, in theory, apply; I just want to understand the process. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Dr. Kelly
Thank you, Madam Chair. There are defined HR processes for dealing with this. The first one is to look at the org design to determine if there are affected employees. We're in the process of doing this at this time. We will be following the HR process as we go forward. As I mentioned, our priority right now, and this has been communicated to staff, is to ensure that we have the assistant deputy ministers and the directors in place prior to April 1st, which is our goal. We have long been communicating that this would -- that there would be an optimization phase where we would need to look at the org design in more detail to make sure that the org design that we ultimately come up with is the right design and works for the people that are in the department and doing that work.
We will ensure that there is -- that as of April 1st, they're still able to conduct all the work that the department needs to do, especially with our partners. That's something that's a goal of the department as well. But we need to follow the HR processes. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. Can I get an answer -- so okay, the goal for April 1st to have all the ADMs that I can see on this chart here and all the directors in place. Would that mean that they are all just acting in those roles, or would they actually have been hired to that role through the HR processes? Thank you.
Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Committee Motion 371-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates - Legislative Assembly - Deferral of Department (Page 5), Carried
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Dr. Kelly
Thank you, Madam Chair. It is our goal to have folks into those positions permanently. There may be some that are transfer assignments until we can get there, but our goal is to be as consistent at that level as possible and to have those people in place to help with the optimization because ultimately, they will be the leaders of these teams. Thank you, Madam Chair.